Will a .410 shell fit a 45-70 chamber?

[BullitHolz]

The reason I'm asking is because I was watching a show on Saturay titled "Alaska Experiment" in which 9 city dwellers were dropped in Alaska and had to navigate a series of shelters and use their coconuts to survive.

During in the show they were given a Ruger chambered in .45-70, which seemed like an odd caliber to give non-gun afficianadoes to me. They already had a Remmington combo gun, .410/.22 with ammo.

I couldn't help but think that one of the reasons for the "gift" of that .45-70, instead of something like a .30-06, was so that they could use .410 in it as well.

 

[engravertom]

I once had a Ruger #1 in 45-70. Hope to again. Mine would chamber and fire, and usually extract, a 410 cartridge (2.5 inch). patterns were bad, and had one split case out of about 6 or so. never tried a slug or buckshot.

HTH,

Tom

 

[rcmodel]

A 45-70 chamber measures .504" at the base, with a .608" rim.
Rim thickness is .065".
It tapers from a .480" mouth to a .504" base.

I don't have exact .410 measurements, but it is very close to a .45 Colt.

They measure .480" at the base, with a 512" rim.
Rim thickness is .060".
There is no taper.

Shotgun pattern & range would be dismal at best out of the rifled 45-70 barrel.

As for the "Alaska Experiment" TV show?

I'm setting here wondering how come they are all near giving up & dying.
When the camera crew is covering the same ground as the actors.
And seem to be doing just fine packing a hell of a lot more stuff then the actors.

A real puzzlement??

rc

 

[freakshow10mm]

Yes a .410 will chamber in a 45-70. It isn't advertised.

 

[rcmodel]

It will chamber.
It won't exactly fit though.

rc

 

[BullitHolz]

Yeah I was thingking the same thing about the camera crew myself...

I just thought it was a really odd caliber to leave them at the 4th campsite...a .45-70? Out of all of the different rounds to use that wouldn't exactly be my first choice in that type of environment. So I got to thinking and that fact that a .45 colt and .410 are interchangable in a quite a few guns led me to thinking about the producers choice of long gun.

I know it wouldn't pattern well in the rifled barrel but it would sure work better to use a .410 bird shot shell in that rifle, when shooting tarmigans than a .45-70 bullit would.

 

[danweasel]

The camera crew thing is the same with every BS "reality show". Are the people on survivor really "surviving"? Nope. And that one dude Bear whatsit <> was caught sleeping in a hotel while he was supposedly in the wild. TV is stupid. Stupid like giving a bunch of pansies a 45-70. Give it to me!

 

[rcmodel]

a .410 bird shot shell in that rifle, when shooting tarmigans than a .45-70 bullit would.

Only if you could get within 20 - 30 feet of them.

Beyond that, the doughnut hole pattern would be spun out so thin it probably wouldn't kill them.

rc

 

[jim in Anchorage]

when shooting ptarmigans than a .45-70 bullit would

fixed. Lower 48ers

 

[Reid73]

I don't watch television (it's all phony nonsense), so I'm not familiar with the show.

Only the producers know why they choose to issue a Ruger .45-70. I doubt that it was because of any ability to shoot .410 shells. Perhaps someone heard about Marlin's "Guide Gun" and inferred that any .45-70 would be suitable for close-range defence against bears.

I'm setting here wondering how come they are all near giving up & dying.

Presumably to give the show dramatic effect (you do know that 'reality' shows are scripted, right?).

 

[rcmodel]

Well, it was a welcome move up from last year.

They had .22 Chipmunks last year.
That was a hoot!

Maybe somebody pointed out there really were big bears in Alaska.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to one of the guns blowing up from a plugged barrel after being used for a crutch so often!

rc

 

[BullitHolz]

Don't forget that in last years show the african american guy from chicago, with NO fire arms experience, got to learn on a .338 WM prior a hunt. I just loved the scope eybrow he got the first time he shot it. He did manage to get a goat with it though so it wasn't all bad.