this is for a friend of mine, since i don't know i thought i would ask ya'll as he doesn't have internet. he seen how well my service six performed that he found a blue security six from 1984 at a local shop. when he got it yesterday i told him to do a complete take down and cleaning. he did but his 6 yr old slipped in and got his cylinder and crane assembly. now it's still ok but it doesn't look as good. the kid beat it against the cement porch and threw it as well. the crane isn't to bad but does have dings and scratches, the cylinder looks terrible and the ejector and rod aren't good at all. he found one on gun broker and wondered if he bought it will it drop in?, he doesn't want to involve a gunsmith he is wanting to bid on it soon, so thanks for any help asap.
will cylinder and/or crane drop in?
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BBBBill
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Maybe....... The question is, will he know what to do if it doesn't. And the likelihood is high that, even if it does drop in, it still won't be correctly fit. Headspace, end shake, barrel to cylinder gap, yoke alignment, and carry up all need to be checked, verified, and corrected as needed. All are fairly easy to check, some are easy to correct, some difficult. If he wants to try, he absolutely must get Kuhnhausen's Ruger Double Action manual ( http://gunbooks.com/ruger.html ) , study, and comprehend the steps and services. The book is available from several other sources like Brownells and Amazon, too. I recommend it even if you don't intend to do your own work. Then there's the tools to correct any issues. Some are reasonably inexpensive and some are pricey. Makes a trip to a qualified smith look even better.
Not to discourage you/him from the effort. I could not find a good smith when I started messing with guns. Just hacks that charged for poor work that I could do myself for no cash outlay. So I bought junkers, book, manual, and tools. It has been a long expensive process and continues to this day.
Not to discourage you/him from the effort. I could not find a good smith when I started messing with guns. Just hacks that charged for poor work that I could do myself for no cash outlay. So I bought junkers, book, manual, and tools. It has been a long expensive process and continues to this day.
First of all, key parts have to be hand fitted, and second - Ruger won't sell them. However if the gun is returned to them they will replace whatever it takes to fix it, if they still have the parts or can refurbish the original ones. However the owner will have to pay for the work because this obviously isn't a warrantee issue.
The young man needs to have his bottom warmed...
The young man needs to have his bottom warmed...
Old Fuff he got it warmed up pretty good, and his remaining summer break is gone as he will be helping his dad around the house working. i have a 3 yr old and i'm already teaching him to keep his hands off stuff that don't belong to him. sending to ruger in the shape it's in they will probably offer a reduced price gp100. the told me on my service six that all major parts are gone and the remaining were going to various stores such as numrich. i'll tell him it will need fitted, he ain't gonna like that.
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As far as the firearm and parts replacement, it's almost certain that there will be some very necessary fitting involved. Wheel gun repairs can be some what involved and are not for the novice or inexperienced.
Sounds like your buddy got a dose of "lesson learned", IMO. Little one's will get into that ever we leave accessible to them. And beyond the ruined firearm parts, there are some extremely poisonous products commonly used in our man caves / work areas that could cause death in minutes if ingested, such as acetone, denatured alcohol, various solvents and such are death in a can. Also staple guns, nail guns, power saws and other tools can be deadly to a curious and untrained child. Do I dare ask if live ammunition, primers, or other firearms were as well accessible?
I raised 5 boys and a girl, and by the age of 3 yrs. old, they could be trusted to never touch anything that they didn't have explicit permission to handle. That doesn't mean I left things accessible to them, but I knew I could momentarily walk away from a project without fear of them getting into things.
Sorry for the rant, but child related issues of this nature really get under my skin, not to mention it contributes to the anti agenda which is now public domain.
GS
Sounds like your buddy got a dose of "lesson learned", IMO. Little one's will get into that ever we leave accessible to them. And beyond the ruined firearm parts, there are some extremely poisonous products commonly used in our man caves / work areas that could cause death in minutes if ingested, such as acetone, denatured alcohol, various solvents and such are death in a can. Also staple guns, nail guns, power saws and other tools can be deadly to a curious and untrained child. Do I dare ask if live ammunition, primers, or other firearms were as well accessible?
I raised 5 boys and a girl, and by the age of 3 yrs. old, they could be trusted to never touch anything that they didn't have explicit permission to handle. That doesn't mean I left things accessible to them, but I knew I could momentarily walk away from a project without fear of them getting into things.
Sorry for the rant, but child related issues of this nature really get under my skin, not to mention it contributes to the anti agenda which is now public domain.
GS
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Maybe, but don't count on it.
I once had a pair of 3-inch Model 13s...one blued and one nickel. One day, just for giggles, I swapped out the cranes and cylinders, mainly to see what they'd look like. Both of them timed perfectly and the barrel to cylinder gaps were within spec. The charge holes even lined up.
I probably shoulda bought a lottery ticket, because the chances of that happening again with two random revolvers is pretty slim.
The problem is that if he buys the assembly and it doesn't work, there's a chance that it can't even be made to work except possibly at Ruger...maybe.
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