Will the new Ruger Bisley Vaquero handle hot loads?

[Gunman21]

I know there are a lot of threads on single sixes but I can't find the answer.

My gut feeling tells me no, I believe this is the same smaller frame as the regular new vaquero. It just made no since to me to make a Bisley grip designed to give more comfort when shooting bigger reloads if the frame can't handle it in the first place. I got a good bit of info here:

http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_Bisley45.htm

but this is an old article not discussing the new Ruger Bisley.

Also does the shorter hammer make it near impossible to shoot fast like John Wayne by slapping the hammer with your hand??

 

[Gunman21]

Dangit, meant to put this in the Revolver Forum.

 

[Beagle-zebub]

Hot loads of what?

If you mean .357 magnum, then yes, it can. If you mean .45 Colt, then no, it can't.

 

[Gunman21]

yea I meant .45 Long Colt.

Thanks for the response

 

[Old Fuff]

The Bisley style offers a number of advantages, but Bill Ruger never intended it to justify so-called "Ruger only" handloads - which he was strongly opposed to. No manufacturer will warrantee they're products if they are used with ammunition that exceed limits documented in industry standard SAAMI specifications.

Ruger's attitude was partly based on a number of revolvers that were not blown up, but were returned for free warrantee service, and found to have expanded or dimpled chambers. It is noteworthy that the “original” Vaquero, built on the .44 Magnum frame was discontinued when the “new” smaller one was introduced. Perhaps you can imagine why.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I own an original Bisley Vaquero in .45 Colt and it will handle the so called "Ruger T/C only loads" just like the Blackhawk will. Like said above, the New Vaquero won't because it's built on the smaller frame more in line with the Colt SAA revolvers. (the Cowboy Action crowd wanted a smaller Ruger and got it in 2005)

 

[Old Fuff]

Gunman21:


Follow the link.


http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=491365

 

[zxcvbob]

My favorite .45 Colt loads are loaded to about 20000 psi. (I have a Bisley-Blackhawk.) I sometimes load it to 25k or a little higher, but 20k is more fun to shoot for extended sessions.

I would have no problem loading at 18.5k to about 21k psi (.45 ACP range) for a New Vaq, but wouldn't go higher -- I don't know why you'd want to go higher; the recoil ought to be pretty fierce in the smaller and lighter frame.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

I don't know why you'd want to go higher; the recoil ought to be pretty fierce in the smaller and lighter frame.

By and large, once you hit 900-1000 fps with a 255 grain bullet, that's about all you need. The justification for "Ruger Only" loads is hunting -- and a 255 grain cast bullet at that velocity will sail through just about anything you'd care to shoot with it at hunting ranges.

 

[ArmedBear]

This Bisley will handle Ruger-only loads: http://ruger.com/products/newModelBlackhawkBisley/models.html

 

[atlanticfire]

New Ruger Vaquero - no
Old Vaquero - yes
If you like the hot loads alot buy a black hawk, eats them all day.

 

[ArmedBear]

If you want to screw with loads AT ALL, get a gun with adjustable sights.