Will Wolf ammo damage my new AR???

[Average Joe]

Try a couple boxes in your rifle. If it works fine, then buy it in bulk. Nothing wrong with Wolf, but some guns just don't like certain brands of ammo.

 

[lycanthrope]

Wolf rocks for hoser ammo. I have NEVER had a bad round in the few thousand of Wolf that I have fired. Dirty? Not any worse than Winchester White Box from Wal Mart. I've run a half thousand through several AR's without problems.

My extractors aren't wearing. I'm looking hard, but I can't find an issue.

 

[Onmilo]

One of the barrels I pulled was from a Bushmaster and it was chrome lined.
As I said, clean the gun regularly and you probably won't have a problem.
Me, I'm going to stay with brass case stuff in my AR rifles.

 

[vanfunk]

I'll go out on a limb here and say that if an AR is having trouble with Wolf, it'll likely have trouble with other ammo too. That is also to say that a properly constructed AR should have no more problems with Wolf than with any other ammo. I've never had a functional problem with Wolf, although it's odor can be stifling. It is not particularly accurate in my rifles, nor is it loaded hot, but it is inexpensive range and "blasting" ammo. The soft steel cases shouldn't pose any problems for a properly made extractor - again, I'd say if your extractor breaks while shooting Wolf, it's likely the part and not the ammo that was the culprit.

I'm waiting for the new 75 grain Wolf to hit the shelves - it's supposed to be a pretty good "poor man's" rendition of the Black Hills 77 gr fodder everybody likes but can't afford or find anywhere.

HTH,
vanfunk

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

One of the barrels I pulled was from a Bushmaster and it was chrome lined.

Just out of curiousity was it a dirty chamber with a red gummy mess inside or just an extremely dirty chamber where the carbon would not come loose from the chamber walls without serious work?

I haven't seen problems with carbon buildup in chrome chambers unless there was also some other extenuating circumstance (like a bunch of red gooey neck sealant, or two different cleaners that had turned into a gummy mess).

 

[Vitamin G]

While everyone will tell you that the stuff jammed on the third round, I am inclined to think in every single case, the rifles were fired heavily and rarely cleaned properly.

Odd you mention this... My bushy superlight jammed on the 2nd case (stuck case), and it WAS cleaned 2 days before we went to the range. (Cleaned Friday night, we shoot sundays.)
No matter... I took a cleaning rod down the barrel, and simply knocked it out backwards, and resumed. No further problems.
(In retrospect, was this safe to do?)

 

[jem375]

the only Wolf ammo I will ever use is for my SKS's or AK47 when I get one..ar15 no, I have too much XM193 or Winchester 3131A which are more accurate.

 

[Shrinkmd]

Since 7.62 x 39 doesn't exist anymore...

Since the Iraqis and Venezuala bought up all the Wolf 7.62 x 39 there's no point in having an SKS or AK anymore, eh? And since the 7.62 which is out there is now the same price as the .223, it's time to see if I can get away with pouring beer into the champagne glass.

So here's my question:

For a chrome lined chamber/barrel, like a Bushmaster, what cleaning regimen and supplies are necessary for getting it really clean (presumably after getting it really dirty with the Wolf?

Is the Dewey AR-15 chamber kit http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=163348
adequate? I'm assuming that if you Mpro7 the hell out of the bolt, clean under (or remove and clean) the extractor, and use one of those extra-long pipe cleaners (with or without solvent? Which one?) for the gas tube, that everything should stay clean and happy.

I just need to get the right tools and learn to pamper every inch of my Bushie.

 

[Cacique500]

Personally, I wouldn't own an AR that couldn't shoot wolf through it. I have about 6000 rounds of wolf through my Colt 6920 and I've never had any problems. I do have my SHTF stash of ammo which is not wolf, but for plinking I'll use it every time.

The 'wear' on extractors due to 'steel' cases is BS - MUCH softer steel is used than regular steel - your extractor is much harder steel than the cases. IF, and I stress 'if' it were true, you'd still save enough money on each and every case to buy a new extractor.

As for it being dirtier or smellier, who cares?

Buy Wolf, shoot it, and enjoy the $$ you save - maybe put it towards another AR...

what cleaning regimen and supplies are necessary for getting it really clean (presumably after getting it really dirty with the Wolf?

I use a normal cleaning regimen - only exception being the use of 'chamber stars'...best thing since sliced bread for an AR. http://www.gandrtactical.com/cleaning_files/stars.htm

 

[lycanthrope]

Is the Dewey AR-15 chamber kit http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...eitemid=163348
adequate?

It better be....it's what I use.

I never clean the gas tube and I've shot thousands of rounds of wolf. I think that excess lube in the gas tube gets carmelized under high heat and causes problems.

I also think Wolf is safe for the extractor. If the AR extractor wasn't spring loaded then mayeb it would wear, but even my cheap AR's show zero wear from Wolf steel cased ammo.

 

[Shrinkmd]

Oh, one other thing...patches

I am going to invest in the Dewey breech rod guide and coated rod (my old one from Kleenbore is all chewed up anyway...) I still haven't found a satisfactory patch which will not get stuck in .22 cal barrels using a .22 cal brass jag. Any brand recommendations?

 

[rocky]

Over 1K of wolf thru my Bushie, without any damage, broken parts.

 

[lycanthrope]

I use the Dewey AR chamber brush and then a Dewey .17 caliber rod and .22 patches for bore cleaning.....no problems.

 

[eastwood44mag]

To echo:

Accuracy will shoot straight to hell, gun will stink, functioning will likely be impaired due to accumulation of residue. Cheap ammo, usually goes bang when you pull trigger (one misfire to date for me, about 400 rounds of my personal collection fired).


I had a bad experience with the .45 rounds today, so I'll only be feeding it to the AK from now on.

 

[Dave Markowitz]

Wolf ammo will break your gun and make you sterile.

Seriously, it works ok in some guns but not in others. E.g., my Colt doesn't seem to like it but runs fine on XM-193, Ultramax, and American Eagle. My Mini-14 OTH runs great on Wolf.

Wolf is dirtier but I don't find the fouling to be hard to get off. Hoppe's No.9 cleans it off fine.

What I don't like about the gray polymer coated Wolf ammo is that it rusts easily, e.g., when stored in a damp crawlspace. If you are going to be storing Wolf polymer in a humid location keep it in an airtight container (e.g. ammo can) and maybe toss in some dessicant. The old lacquered stuff was better in this regard.

 

[Lennyjoe]

After getting a case stuck in my AR while at the Yuma shoot, I won't use Wolf anymore in my AR-15. Had to beat the damn thing out with a cleaning rod and hammer. Won't do that again.