Wilson AR Barrels
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farmerboy78
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I have a white oak upper that has a Wilson barrel. Very accurate rifle.
MachIVshooter
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Wilson barrels are good, but unless you want a pig of a rifle that doesn't shoot any better than a typical carbine, pass on HBAR. They have the same thinner government profile forward of the sight base, ergo the same kind of whip and shot stringing from heat.
If you want a target gun, go bull barrel. Otherwise, I'd suggest sticking to government or lightweight profile.
If you want a target gun, go bull barrel. Otherwise, I'd suggest sticking to government or lightweight profile.
carbine85
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I have the HBAR Wilson barrel and it is a tack driver. Mine is a 1:8 twist.
Jackal
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Weight does not always = accuracy. I have a Larue lightweight .625 barrel that shoots better than most peoples 5lb tubes. Quality trumps weight.
MachIVshooter
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Single anecdote ≠ empirical evidence. I have a pencil profile upper that outshoots the one HBAR middy I have.
Additionally, there is nothing quantitative here, just a vague "more accurate than your typical carbine". What does that mean? And before you speak, know that I have a wee bit of experience with AR from sub-pencil profile to full bull barrel, 7.5"-24", free floated and not.
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primalmu
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The Wilson 16" HBAR barrel on my Rock River Arms upper shoots Fiocchi 40gr VMax into 3/8" group at 100 yards. Plenty accurate for me.
carbine85
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Regardless of the quanity of ARs you own. The typical pencil barrel will not shoot as well as a stainless Wilson 1:8 twist.
For what it's worth my inventory out numbers yours by 1.
* I take that back. You have one more than me
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MachIVshooter
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Stop it with this "typical" nonsense. There is no reliable metric for this. Best you can do is cherry pick anecdotal reports, which include wild claims like:
Which don't match reality. Do we really believe he shoots much smaller groups with a 16" HBAR on an RRA (upper?) with no other details than is possible from the bench with my 22" 1:8 Wilson Bull barrel assembled into an Aero Precision upper on a custom billet steel lower with a Hyperfire 24-3G trigger and 5-15x scope with 69 gr. Sierra Matchking or 75 gr. Hornady A-Max handloads? My best bolt guns with tuned triggers and ultra fine crosshair scopes won't put 5 carefully handloaded bullets into .375@ 100 yards consistently from sand bags.
10-shot 100 yard average: .89 MOA
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primalmu
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Someone sure has his knickers in a twist. I said my barrel has done that as a way to confirm that Wilson barrels are good barrels. Your assumption that I am claiming that an HBAR barrel is just as good as a bull barrel is completely unfounded and preposterous. You need to take a serious chill pill, man.
And BTW, I had a RRA 20" Varmint that would regularly shoot 5-shot groups into 1/4" at 100 yards if I did my part. And let's face it, generally speaking, the biggest limiting factor when it comes to accuracy is not the mechanical accuracy of the rifle, but the guy pulling the trigger.
And BTW, I had a RRA 20" Varmint that would regularly shoot 5-shot groups into 1/4" at 100 yards if I did my part. And let's face it, generally speaking, the biggest limiting factor when it comes to accuracy is not the mechanical accuracy of the rifle, but the guy pulling the trigger.
MachIVshooter
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You may believe what you want, and you may make any fantastic claims you want. Just understand that people who have played the accuracy game are rolling their eyes. We hear it all the time on the internet and in gun shops. I've offered a lot of bets on such accuracy claims, and very, very few people have taken them, usually becoming defensive and spouting off something to the effect of "I don't have to prove anything to you!" blah, blah. Then few who did lost miserably, and there was no shortage of grumbling with every excuse in the book.
RainDodger
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Just like primalmu, I have a Rock River 20" with a Wylde chamber. It shoots just like primalmu's does. 
It is freakishly consistent, well under an inch at 100. Just sayin' he's not exaggerating!
Edit: I'm not saying I can regularly shoot a quarter inch group by any means! I'm just saying the rifle could likely do it. I do regularly shoot into an inch at 100 with that rifle and hand loads, with the attached 4-12X Leupold.
It is freakishly consistent, well under an inch at 100. Just sayin' he's not exaggerating!Edit: I'm not saying I can regularly shoot a quarter inch group by any means! I'm just saying the rifle could likely do it. I do regularly shoot into an inch at 100 with that rifle and hand loads, with the attached 4-12X Leupold.
MachIVshooter
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Just like primalmu, I have a Rock River 20" with a Wylde chamber. It shoots just like primalmu's does.
Edit: I'm not saying I can regularly shoot a quarter inch group by any means! I'm just saying the rifle could likely do it. I do regularly shoot into an inch at 100 with that rifle and hand loads, with the attached 4-12X Leupold.
Sub-MOA claims from varmint ARs get no scrutiny from me. My own does it, and many, many others can. 1/4 MOA claims, however, are most deservedly met with great skepticism. Very few rifles and very few shooters in the world can hold 1/4 MOA consistently in groups of 5 or more. As well, <5 shots is not sufficient for accuracy claims, and "flier"s are part of your group; it's not a best 4 out of 5 proposition. You and your gun can either put 5+ bullets into a given area consistently, or your can't. A one-time group doesn't count for snot. I shot a .28 MOA group with my Century G3 once, but it is most certainly not a .28 MOA gun. More like 1.5 MOA. Just dumb luck on that one.
1stmarine
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Many barrel makers look good outside. The issue is Quality Control.
Wilson make very good barrels. Not just the stock is good but it seems to me quality in cutting and cambering is also key.
Based on my observations it seems they care about quality control and barrels are concentric and properly indexed before cutting.
I also had very good luck with Krieger, Lothar Walther for polygonal and AR15 performance for melonited barrels.
If you get a wilson barrel you should be a happy customer.
Wilson make very good barrels. Not just the stock is good but it seems to me quality in cutting and cambering is also key.
Based on my observations it seems they care about quality control and barrels are concentric and properly indexed before cutting.
I also had very good luck with Krieger, Lothar Walther for polygonal and AR15 performance for melonited barrels.
If you get a wilson barrel you should be a happy customer.
RainDodger
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I have a buddy that has a Wilson barrel and he's very happy with it. He generally uses a scope rather than a red dot and he's happy with his group sizes out of the Wilson.
As for other barrels, I just bought an Odin Works barrel. Extremely nice barrels. You can find many reviews of them online. If I ever have occasion to buy another barrel, it will be another from Odin Works.
As for other barrels, I just bought an Odin Works barrel. Extremely nice barrels. You can find many reviews of them online. If I ever have occasion to buy another barrel, it will be another from Odin Works.
DougW
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I bought 3- 20" Wilson chrome moly HBAR's 10+ years ago. Had one machined to Government profile, taking a pound of steel off. Resides on my 20" A3 rifle, shoots wonderfully. Had another of the HB's mounted up for a while, shoots <1"@100 yards. Third barrel sold to a feiend, his rifle shoots the same <1". These barrels were bought from Century for $50 each. Good investment!
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