Winchester 1300

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A pawn shop I frequest has a Winchester 1300 with choke for sale for $249.99.
The gun is in pretty good shape, cycles well, smooth, wood is in great shape. Overall it looks & feels great. Is 249.99 a decent price for a used 1300 in what appears to be pretty good condition?
 
Winchester 1300 for 249.99

Thanks for the valued opinion Geneseo1911 I'll be back there tomorrow to hopefully make the purchase.

THANKS!!!
 
Remember, pawn shops have 100% markup. Offer $200 and buy a flat of shells with the balance. I'm betting that you can snap it up for $200. You'll save money, the shop will make money.
 
Lawman makes a very good point. I bought a 1200 barrel (they interchange with the 1300) at a pawn shop recently. It was marked $95. I offered $50 and we met at $65. It can't hurt to haggle; they expect it. They probably stole that Winchester for $100 from some widow who didn't know any better.
 
Winchester 1300 for 249.00

I feel far better armed with the information you all have provided. While there today I did ask if that was the best they could do on the price. They flat out refused to haggle at all. In fact I asked several times what's the best you can do on this shotgun and they said what's marked on the ticket.

Am I going about this in the wrong way? Please provide as much insight/info as possible because I'm not the best haggler. Any/All input is greatly appreciated... HELP!!!
 
Prices on the discontinued 1300's seemed to have bottomed out now that all of the new ones have finally left the clearance shelves of the Bass Pro's of the world. I bought one of the last new 1300s in 2006 for $299. I bought a nice used model for $220 a year ago. $250 seems a little high, but look at it like this...

If you REALLY like the gun, then is the extra $50 going to mean a lot over the many years of service? This is not rationalizing the higher price. You have to just decide if that is the particular gun that calls to you, is what you want, and can you walk away? I'd offer him the $250 only as an out the door price. I might do more if I didn't already have two 1300's in my safe.

Whatever you do, be happy when you walk out and never look back.

Good luck!
 
I like the 1300 and have a few. Just traded one to get a deer rifle for my new young shooter. But I have found they hold up well, shoot well and cycle anything. I sold a Defender last year, that had been my home defense for several years. Also used it to haul out my game in grizzly country. I've been downsizing, and felt my 11-87 Turkey gun could now assume that role.
 
While there today I did ask if that was the best they could do on the price. They flat out refused to haggle at all. In fact I asked several times what's the best you can do on this shotgun and they said what's marked on the ticket.

Am I going about this in the wrong way? Please provide as much insight/info as possible because I'm not the best haggler. Any/All input is greatly appreciated... HELP!!!
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Don't ask them if they can do better on the price. Instead, make them an outright offer on what you are willing to pay. Make the offer first because if you ask them if they can do better, of course they are going to reply in the negative and you are pretty much stuck. Be proactive when starting to negotiate, the worse they can say is no.
 
the 1300 cycles pretty darn fast, as the pump releases immediately after firing and comes straight back.

That's what is behind the whole "speed pump" bit.....
 
Hint number two: Never ask the question: Is that the best you can do?

Offer about 60% of the tag price and hush a moment. This tag price of $250 should get a starting offer of $150. Good haggling is an art that I learned from pawnbrokers themselves. They expect you to make an offer. If they think you really want the gun, they'll hold to the tag price. be prepared to walk. Approach it right and it works every time.

You hurt their pride by questioning their tag price and asking their bottom dollar. Just figure on starting your offer at 60% of the tag and you will meet somewhere around 75%. In this case $190 would be tops. Hvae him throw in the sales tax and give him $200.

Live and learn. Next time just tell the pawnbroker that you will give him X dollars, the X being around 60% of tag. You and him both will have fun and save money haggling. I dearly love it and have never paid more than 75% of tag price. Be sure that you are talking to the manager before you make the offer. The clerks can't do anything for you.

There ain't much that I love better than pawnshopping. Most of my collection came from pawnshops. I've been shopping them over 50 years.

It may be too late to haggle on this gun. Next time, do it my way! You'll save money and the shop will have a decent profit.
 
IMO, the 1300 is every bit the gun the 870 is (stamped parts are stamped parts) unless having a steel vs aluminum receiver is important to you. Plus, I much prefer a safety located in the front of a trigger guard as opposed to the rear-but that is just me. So I feel that the 1300 would make you a very nice pump shotgun and the price you referenced seems fair to me.
 
I paid $279 for a 1300 with a 22" iron-sight slug barrel, and a bird-barrel too, used, but looking as-new, from one of the higher-priced local pawn shops last October. It's a great, (and apparently highly-regarded, even "classic" shotgun), my only complaint is you can only put four shells in the magazine, whether 2.75 or 3".

Les
 
I wanted an older Ithaca 37 but couldn't find one at the right price in the right configuration, so I bought a Defender -- almost 15 years later, she's still loaded in my closet -- I'm glad i have mine!
 
Keep us informed about your deal. With the high inventory lurking in the back room ready to go on the rack after the three months required to redeem, there is going to be a lot to hit the shelves next month.

Pawn shops generally loan 1/3 the amount that they can sell it for. With high inventory, they may put only 100% markup on the guns so that they can make room for the deluge that will hit them in April.

With hunting season over, and the economy in rough shape, a lot of guns have been pawned and will not be redeemed. The shop can't eat inventory so now is the time to haggle. Most profitable shops turn the inventory every three months, which is the cycle to redeem the guns. Now that many folks are out of work, money is tight, the time is perfect to pick up some real deals. Volume is what makes money for pawn shops.

So, haggle away.
 
Winchester 1300 for 249.00

Well I'm not proud about this but I visited that pawn shop today after work. I caved in and paid the full asking price of 249.99 and had to put it on lay away.
I spoke with a woman behind the counter and offered her 175.00 for the Winchester. She just smiled and said I'm sorry but the managers policy is no haggling on firearms. She went on to say that two others have come in for that Winchester but neither willing to pay the 249.99. She explained that firearms have been flying off the shelves over the last few months. I asked why? She smiled politely and said "they just have..."
So I prodded her on a bit and she said well income tax returns are out, then she turned red faced and reluctantly said the election had something to do with the gun buying frenzy. She told me that many feel President Obama will make it difficult to purchase firearms. Anyhow... I have six months to pay it off and then it's mine. I think it's going to be one fine hunting SG. It's in great shape and if I didn't mention it's choke equipped.
Okay I caved in!!!
THANKS to all who provided input.
 
You didn't do badly at that price. Don't worry about it, right now it's a seller's market in a lot of places. The advice on haggling in pawn shops is pretty good, but some places flat just won't do it, and some mark rediculous prices on used guns. There's no dealing with those at all. Best thing to do when haggling is to always be prepared to offer a smile and a genuine "Thank you" and go on to the next deal. Cash in hand is another good idea, always back up your offer with money in hand.

Enjoy it, and Stay Safe-

lpl
 
I have a 1300XTR, beautiful pump gun. It is nice and light, perfect for quail and dove. My only complaint has been trying to find a shorter 20" barrel for slug or buckshot. They are rare and usually run what the gun cost. Bill
 
IIRC, some of those had Lyman adjustable chokes. One of mine has. They are great. No fooling with screw-ins. Much better than the fixed chokes of that era.
 
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