Since I am not a LEO and would never need to shoot through a windshield or door to stop a BG I really don't need a bonded ammo.
Well, what if some guy is trying to run you down with his vehicle, or is shooting at you at home from behind concealment?
The Ranger T is a better design for my needs, that is, strictly for self defense whether outside or in my house.
Ranger-T works pretty well against even windshields, too. The bonded version is only a minor improvement in this regard.
Besides, Ranger T is quite a bit less expensive so I can practice with it much more often.
PDX1 is the same as Ranger Bonded, which typically costs the same as Ranger-T. They just charge civilians more for the same ammo.
Sure, if you'll pay for my lawyer after I shoot someone leaving the scene in his vehicle.
Then don't ever do that, regardless of what load you're carrying.
On the other hand, what if the bad guy is coming after you in his vehicle rather than leaving?
Lawman Ranger T will do every thing that is needed in a self defense scenario, at least according to Winchester. And after testing it myself I tend to agree with them.
By design, it does everything that
law enforcement requires, including killing people behind barriers such as windshields and automotive sheet metal. There are other brands of defensive ammo that perform poorly at these tasks, and some people prefer those for that very reason, but I'll stick with ammo that can punch through barriers for
defensive purposes, myself. Ranger-T is fine for the latter, and there is no reason to knock PDX1/Ranger Bonded for being slightly better at it.
The technology seems impressive, but the quality control is VERY troubling. This is not White Box ammo but $1 per round premium ammo.
I certainly agree in principle, as I've stated in the past, but I should point out that it's not always like this. In my experience, such poor quality control is unusual even for Winchester White Box (USA). Obviously something is wrong, and hopefully they'll get it fixed soon. All of my .40 S&W PDX1 rounds--and I have hundreds on hand, mostly packaged more economically as Ranger Bonded--have been clean and as pristine as I could expect any mass-produced ammo to be. On the average, my factory practice ammo is dirtier cosmetically, although only a very few rounds had noticeable dings, and all were fit to shoot. The 9mm PDX1 rounds that you're talking about were majorly messed up though, which just isn't normal (or acceptable).
i've gotten HST's with dents in every single of the 50 rounds in the box.
i've only bought two 20 round boxes of PDX1, didn't have any dents, but i did notice the bullets were "dirty" looking...
All of mine have been clean, but I have several boxes of Ranger FMJ practice rounds that are the filthiest (on the outside) new ammo that I've ever seen
; I also have a couple of boxes of the latter with clean rounds, by the way. I've bought dirty rounds (didn't know until I opened the boxes) from every manufacturer at some point or other, although they've always shot just fine. I guess these days they seldom stop to thoroughly clean their equipment or whatever.
