Winchester, Remington, Savage, Weatherby, Sako, or CZ bolt actions?
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Boanerges57
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Savage 111 (blued), 116 (stainless) if you want polymer stock, and 114 if you want wood stock.
30-06 is a very versatile and easy to find all-round hunting round.
You can find a round suited to just about anything in this caliber.
The savage package deals are an excellent entry level configuration. The scope is usually a 3-9x40 bushnel.
You can often find the savage package guns in gander mountain or cabelas for under $500. It is a very good price for what you are getting.
the lower priced remingtons cant really stand up favorably to the other rifles in that price range. Savage and Tikka will blow them away.
Ruger just released a new rifle line that looks to be priced under $500. It might be worth a look.
I just got a lefty savage 16 in 7mm-08, put an egw piccatinny rail on it, egw rings and a vortex crossfire 6-24x50 scope on it.
Im still only sitting at about $900 put into it.
Im planning to have it bedded into a custom stock and fitted with a heavy barrel and ill still be under $1500 for my total investment at that point.
30-06 is a very versatile and easy to find all-round hunting round.
You can find a round suited to just about anything in this caliber.
The savage package deals are an excellent entry level configuration. The scope is usually a 3-9x40 bushnel.
You can often find the savage package guns in gander mountain or cabelas for under $500. It is a very good price for what you are getting.
the lower priced remingtons cant really stand up favorably to the other rifles in that price range. Savage and Tikka will blow them away.
Ruger just released a new rifle line that looks to be priced under $500. It might be worth a look.
I just got a lefty savage 16 in 7mm-08, put an egw piccatinny rail on it, egw rings and a vortex crossfire 6-24x50 scope on it.
Im still only sitting at about $900 put into it.
Im planning to have it bedded into a custom stock and fitted with a heavy barrel and ill still be under $1500 for my total investment at that point.
Smith and Wesson owns Thompson Center....
boltgunner93
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When I was looking for a new .30 caliber rifle last year I decided to purchase a Thompson Center Icon in .308. I picked one up at a local gun shop for $800, but it had been there for a little while, it was manufactured in 2008. I would expect to find one for around $1000 or so. The one I have has their "ultra wood" walnut stock and blued finish.
Here's a link: http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/icon.php
They put a lot of thought into that rifle and excellent craftsmanship. They're made in New Hampshire, so I "bought local". I've found it to be very accurate and it fits me well. I really enjoy shooting it and I took two deer with it on opening day this year.
You might want to check one out if you can find one.
Good Hunting.
Here's a link: http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/icon.php
They put a lot of thought into that rifle and excellent craftsmanship. They're made in New Hampshire, so I "bought local". I've found it to be very accurate and it fits me well. I really enjoy shooting it and I took two deer with it on opening day this year.
You might want to check one out if you can find one.
Good Hunting.
Mitchell Gard
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Well I think I have a really good deal locked on for a nice scope. But it's certainly not 100%
tundraotto
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I strongly urge you to try the rifles in hand before you buy. You will know then for sure.
Mitchell Gard
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I'm going to try my absolute hardest to do that tundra. I'm just mostly researching for a purchase within the next year. I'm going to focus on restoring my Mosin Nagant, when I get back from my deployment in Afghanistan I intend to make y final decision and purchase.
Mitchell Gard:
I have owned multiple Winchester, Remington, Weatherby, Sako and CZ (and Ruger) rifles. I have not owned a Savage rifle. Any company can produce a good rifle, and a few defective one.
My first consideration is that I dislike proprietary rings or ammo. That fact renders Sako, CZ and Ruger as non-starters. Why? Simple. Imagine being 500 miles from home, you drop your rifle with proprietary rings, damage them. Try getting those at Meijer or K-Mart. Most likely even the larger chains won't stock them. They were good, but.
I also prefer USA-made given the economy, I now demand USA-made. Again, Sako and CZ are out there as well. Weatherby Vanguard is now out (Japan).
I prefer a one-piece bolt. Savage and Remington are now out. I also dislike Remington's anemic extractor. I have broken more than a couple, one in the field, after the first shot was fired. Fortunately I made a 300 yard, 1-shot-kill. My M700 Police is wonderful, and I use it for varmint or target.
This leaves us with Winchester. Do a search of my name and Super Grade and you'll see they ticked me off for sending out a pathetically defective M70 Super Grade. Shameful. At best the customer service rep was rude. They nearly lost my business. The company replaced the rifle with a new one, and it is awesome. I also bought a M70 Stealth. Great rifle.
The current M70's are accurate, one-piece bolt, forged barrels, have claw-extractor and the ejector...forget about it!!! Watch that brass fly.
Get yourself new M70, a Leupold scope, and solid bases/rings. Check Federal Premium ammo for hunting, and pick up a reloading book. It's simple.
Post some pictures of your purchase.
Geno
I have owned multiple Winchester, Remington, Weatherby, Sako and CZ (and Ruger) rifles. I have not owned a Savage rifle. Any company can produce a good rifle, and a few defective one.
My first consideration is that I dislike proprietary rings or ammo. That fact renders Sako, CZ and Ruger as non-starters. Why? Simple. Imagine being 500 miles from home, you drop your rifle with proprietary rings, damage them. Try getting those at Meijer or K-Mart. Most likely even the larger chains won't stock them. They were good, but.
I also prefer USA-made given the economy, I now demand USA-made. Again, Sako and CZ are out there as well. Weatherby Vanguard is now out (Japan).
I prefer a one-piece bolt. Savage and Remington are now out. I also dislike Remington's anemic extractor. I have broken more than a couple, one in the field, after the first shot was fired. Fortunately I made a 300 yard, 1-shot-kill. My M700 Police is wonderful, and I use it for varmint or target.
This leaves us with Winchester. Do a search of my name and Super Grade and you'll see they ticked me off for sending out a pathetically defective M70 Super Grade. Shameful. At best the customer service rep was rude. They nearly lost my business. The company replaced the rifle with a new one, and it is awesome. I also bought a M70 Stealth. Great rifle.
The current M70's are accurate, one-piece bolt, forged barrels, have claw-extractor and the ejector...forget about it!!! Watch that brass fly.
Get yourself new M70, a Leupold scope, and solid bases/rings. Check Federal Premium ammo for hunting, and pick up a reloading book. It's simple.
Post some pictures of your purchase.
Geno
South Carolina has tried to secede twice, but they are still part of the United States.
The Model 70s are made in South Carolina. The lever guns and the single shots are made in Japan.
Bobson
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Every new Model 70 is fully manufactured and assembled in South Carolina.
http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/category.asp?family=001C
Edit: HOOfan beat me to it.
Kachok
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After owning more bolt actions then I care to count I will give you a breakdown of the key players.
Winchster. Only owned one, would not group worth a darn at long range, but worked for over a decade without a hickup.
Savage. Owned five of them, ALL functioned perfectly and would group sub-MOA with at leased one type of ammo. Ugly as a $#!^ stick but that kind of performance for that price I will own more.
Remington, owned three, all turds, won't touch another one ever.
Marlin great lever guns, and their XS7 bolt action was much like a Savage, stupid accurate, ugly as sin and reliable as could be.
Sako/Tikka overall my top pick, though more expensive then my Savages I perfer a the trigger, synthetic stock and egronomics over the others. Slim, light, accurate, egronomic, refined, and reliable what more could you ask for.
Browning, never owned one myself but in my experence they are good all around rifles with premo fit and finnish.
Best calibers I have used over the years.
6.5x55 yep it is that good, all you will ever need in the lower 48 and it is very easy on the shoulder and the eardrums. It is remarkably efficient in terms of internal/external/terminal ballistics. Though it is NOT my top pick for non-handloaders due to poor selection of factory loads.
270 win, because it just does everything well. #1 pick for a non-handloader
270 WSM or 7mm Rem Mag both fill the same role just as well. Shoot super flat and hits really hard for mild kicking calibers.
308 perfect utility/survival caliber, also the best in auto loaders
30-06 Super versital especaly in the hands of a handloader.
Just my .02
Winchster. Only owned one, would not group worth a darn at long range, but worked for over a decade without a hickup.
Savage. Owned five of them, ALL functioned perfectly and would group sub-MOA with at leased one type of ammo. Ugly as a $#!^ stick but that kind of performance for that price I will own more.
Remington, owned three, all turds, won't touch another one ever.
Marlin great lever guns, and their XS7 bolt action was much like a Savage, stupid accurate, ugly as sin and reliable as could be.
Sako/Tikka overall my top pick, though more expensive then my Savages I perfer a the trigger, synthetic stock and egronomics over the others. Slim, light, accurate, egronomic, refined, and reliable what more could you ask for.
Browning, never owned one myself but in my experence they are good all around rifles with premo fit and finnish.
Best calibers I have used over the years.
6.5x55 yep it is that good, all you will ever need in the lower 48 and it is very easy on the shoulder and the eardrums. It is remarkably efficient in terms of internal/external/terminal ballistics. Though it is NOT my top pick for non-handloaders due to poor selection of factory loads.
270 win, because it just does everything well. #1 pick for a non-handloader
270 WSM or 7mm Rem Mag both fill the same role just as well. Shoot super flat and hits really hard for mild kicking calibers.
308 perfect utility/survival caliber, also the best in auto loaders
30-06 Super versital especaly in the hands of a handloader.
Just my .02
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