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I emailed Winchester this am about the .380,38 Spec and 9MM shortage. This is their reply. Byron

Thank you very much for taking the time to contact us here at Winchester Ammunition. We are always glad to hear from our many friends and customers who share in the shooting sport.

There is an unusually high demand for Winchester Ammunition products at this time. Winchester Ammunition is manufacturing ammunition 24-7 and making every effort to meet this high demand.

Thank you again for contacting us here at Winchester Ammunition. If you should require additional information, do not hesitate to contact us.

Sincerely,

Winchester Technical Department
 
I think the Best place to find ammo Right now, is Finding a Local Business that Manufactures it. Like here in Kalispell MT There is a Bullet maker Named "Montana Gold". These guys only supply a small number of Stores. so Supply is Higher than a Much larger Manufacture
 
Gunny,
Montana Gold sells primarily via mail order. They are asking customers to place smaller orders, and they still have a massive backlog of orders. Most of the guys that I shoot with buy Montana Gold components in 5000+ lots, and they are waiting for weeks for orders to be filled.

I hopre that the latest DoD development takes away some of the fear and panic buying.
 
It's not Winchester's fault, nor is it WallyWorld's or any of the other sellers out there. It's all of the #&^(@ hoarders who are running scared at the moment; those are the guys who are the real problems. :cuss:

It would be interesting to run a poll and see how many people would admit to stockpiling ammo since last November, or even before in anticipation of the election results. I'll wager that if most of us were honest about it, the picture would be overwhelming. I have to admit that every time I go to WallyWorld, I stop by the ammo department, just to see if anything is available. It seldom is these days, as we all know only too well. But earlier in the week, when I spotted three boxes of 100-round Winchester White Box 9mm -- the first time I'd seen 9mm in more than 10 weeks -- I couldn't get the wallet out fast enough.
 
It would be interesting to run a poll and see how many people would admit to stockpiling ammo since last November, or even before
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I would, but it has little to do with the election. I just like hoarding ammo. And powder. And primers.
And bullets. And lead to make more bullets. So that my hoarded ammo can become hoarded reloaded ammo. I just like knowing all those ammo cans are full.

I mean, ammo bought any given day ain't likely to ever get any cheaper.
 
Gocks Rock, welome to THR. You will find shooters with more experience than any gun magazine writer. Use the "search" as there is a wealth of information there. Byron
 
Since Obama's election there has been a run on ammo, many guns as well, as some folks have been scared into believing they will soon be outlawed or excessively taxed (this latter is likely). This has created a temporary shortage of the most popular rounds.

tipoc
 
I haven't bought much ammo since the election. I did buy quite a bit of 9mm a couple of years ago when I found it on sale. Since the election I have picked up one box of .32acp, a box of .38spl, 200 rounds of .223 and 1000 rounds of Wolf 7.62x39 all for a total of $355. I could have bought more of the Wolf but I wanted to leave some for other customers. I would have bought all of this regardless of the election outcome.
 
It's not Winchester's fault, nor is it WallyWorld's or any of the other sellers out there. It's all of the #&^(@ hoarders who are running scared at the moment; those are the guys who are the real problems.
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You're using some strong words there. Some of us were smart enough to see this coming and so we provided for our needs ahead of time. Like the story of the grasshopper and the ants. It's too bad you weren't one of us. I bet you don't have any food storage either - do you? So, when the food supplies run short I bet you'll call the rest of us food hoarders instead of wise men - won't you?
 
It would be interesting to run a poll and see how many people would admit to stockpiling ammo since last November,
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I'm with Bill those who saw this coming prepared.If you didn't that's not my fault in the slightest.
 
You're using some strong words there. Some of us were smart enough to see this coming and so we provided for our needs ahead of time.
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If you were "smart enough" to stock up ahead of time then he isnt talking about you or anyone else that was "smart enough".

The only problem I have with someone buying all of the stock up is when they turn around and sell it for a ridiculous price. If you want to buy 5000 rounds to store or shoot then more power to you. But dont buy all the WWB 9mm...ect... and sell them for 50 a box.
 
The only problem I have with someone buying all of the stock up is when they turn around and sell it for a ridiculous price. If you want to buy 5000 rounds to store or shoot then more power to you. But dont buy all the WWB 9mm...ect... and sell them for 50 a box.
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But, he said hoarding was the problem, not profiteering. There is a BIG difference.

I agree that profiteering should not be allowed. Besides, doesn't one need to have an FFL to sell ammunition in quantity?
 
I don't like profiteering either but the only antedote is a command economy.

If that person takes the initiative to buy the ammo and sells it at a profit more power to him.

They're only charging what the market will bear.
 
If you were "smart enough" to stock up ahead of time then he isnt talking about you or anyone else that was "smart enough".
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I was just pointing out that despite what you said; he WAS talking about hoarders.
 
Well, I for one sure stocked up. The handwriting was on the wall. But I haven't bought much lately; prices are higher and I have plenty of most of what I shoot. My only sore spot for awhile was .223. For years I declined to get an AR, being a confirmed AK/SKS guy. Then last year I got an AR. Well, sure, I got some ammo for it, but it got scarce for a little while after the Obamanation. It's plentiful now; just a little pricier than it was. But I've gotten used to it; gas is pricier than it was a decade ago, too. If I find a good deal I'll stock up, same as with all the other calibers.
 
I buy a little if I see it somewhere like WallyWorld, but usually it's just a couple of boxes of .22s or 9mm. No 500 or 1000 round case lot buys. I don't think I'm hoarding; just some for now, and some for later.
 
I too don't have any problem with those whom stockpiled for their own use. While I don't like the idea of those profiteering, but this is still America and capitalism is what it is. Buy low & sell high, no different than the market. Right now it is the ammunition makers whom are raising their prices, example; 3 weeks ago Winchester Xpert .22 LR ammo. was selling for $16.99 a box of 500 at large chain sporting goods store, now it sells for $22.99 a box. Its possable Winchester is profiteering from the panic buying, but it's more likely the added cost of keeping their plant operating 24/7, and all the overtime they have to pay their employees may have something to do with it. LM
 
I dont see a shortage around here, I bought 1,000 rds 9mm winchester NATO from 5280 armory the day before yesterday (for $160 nonetheless) and they had a PALLET left. This is starting to look more and more like some sort of manufactured crisis to me.
-FL
 
The concept of supply and demand is alive and well.

Good.

Why should a company sell an item for 16.99 when they can sell it quickly for 22.99?

You call that "profiteering"...I call it business.
 
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