MISportsman
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Has anyone used the 200gr sp 7.62x54r by wolf? I'm thinking about using my mosin for a black bear hunt next year and was thinking about giving this ammo a try. Any on game performance would be appreciated.
wolf 7.62x54r soft point
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courtgreene
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It'll work. I haven't killed anything with it, but it's a pretty standard cup and core moving at 2200ish fps. I don't see any reason for it not to work.
entropy
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It'll work, but it'll kick like a mule.
Loyalist Dave
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In a milsurp Moisin-Nagant, yes you tend to feel the recoil as the stock shape sucks....
In a Moisin-Nagant fitted with a modern stock, or in a rifle with a sporting stock, it's the same kick as a .30-06. The 7N1 sniper ammo (150 grain) is pretty comfortable.
HINT if you haven't fitted a modern stock to your rifle, you should think on that...
I'd forgo the Wolf as a lot of that is bi-metal, and Wolf tends to be less diligent from round to round, when I've chronographed their .308, 7.62x39mm, and .223 Remington.
I'd say take a look at Privi Partisan in 150gr soft point https://www.sgammo.com/product/prvi...ft-point-150-grain-brass-case-non-corrosive-p
IF you think that's too light, then look at the Sellier & Bellot 180 grain soft point rounds. https://www.sgammo.com/product/sell...rain-soft-point-ammo-sellier-bellot-sb76254rb
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MISportsman
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Thank you. I am actually going to put a modern stock on it. I will also give the s&b a try, I like the heavier bullet for bear. My rifle seems shoot the wolf fmj loads fairly accurately, that's why I wanted to try their soft point if it performed on game.
entropy
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Not an ATI.
illinoisburt
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Honestly I've never understood this. I've shot a bunch of ammo though 91-30s in both stock and aftermarket configurations. Anyone who has spend even a little time waterfowling or chasing deer and turkeys with a standard 12 gauge can attest the rifle is much more pleasant. The military stock is short and the gun is barrel heavy which leads to poor shooting form with the butt loosely held to the shoulder. Get a good grip and pull the gun into the pocket when shooting and the recoil is not a big deal. The aftermarket stocks tend to be a bit longer with a squishy recoil pad which can really help.
Also, the 200 and 203 grain softpoints actually kick a little less. They aren't overloaded like the suplus ball ammo so no big fireballs either. The 200 and 203 grain bi-metal softpoints have pretty stout jackets and move fairly slow so expect deeper straight line penetration and less expansion than you would see with domestic hunting bullets. That's probably a good thing for large animals like elk or bears. Not the greatest for deer. Get something a bit lighter and more fragile for smaller animals.
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MISportsman
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Is there something wrong with the ATI stocks?
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MISportsman
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The recoil doesn't bother me, I hunt with a .30-06 and a .300 win mag all the time. The reason I'm changing the stock is because I have long arms and the short military stock is not comfortable because of that. It also is a little more weather resistant than the wood.
illinoisburt
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Only legit complaints are it's about 2 pounds lighter than the wood, is not free floated (the barrel may snap down into the forend), and may require a some fitting around the interrupter assembly. Honestly it works fine.
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MISportsman
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So a little time with a Dremel and she's good to go? Now I just need to figure out if I want to do it to my m44 or my Chinese type 53.
courtgreene
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I have an ATI stock. They aren't great, but they're not bad either. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
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MISportsman
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Of the available aftermarket stocks for the mosin and since I'm building a hunting rifle, so far I like the style of the ATI best.
entropy
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Also a narrow wrist, which transmits the full recoil to the thin pad on back. I've had two Mosin ATI stocks (that came on the guns), and threw on the cut-down Finn stock I keep as a spare after shooting them with the ATI stock. They are nice if you want a stock you don't have to worry about in the woods, but as illinoisburt said, it may alter POI.
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22250Rem
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Loyalist Dave suggested looking at the Privi Partisan 150 gr. soft point hunting load and so would I. They work well out my all original M91/30 and have been chronographed from it on two different occasions. Once averaging 2875 fps and the other average was 2915 fps. So we're working with a 150 gr. softpoint bullet at around 2900 fps. Never had the opportunity to bear hunt although I've run into a couple over the years but I know they can and do get harvested with cartridges producing less power than that 150gr./2900 fps combo. It would be interesting to see which bullet weight is more accurate and just go with the accuracy winner. I don't consider the 150 gr. Privi load to be excessive in the recoil dept. either, as some heavier stuff has noticeably more recoil in my gun.
Blue Brick
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I like mine.
Blue Brick
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No mods were needed. Fit like a glove.
caribou
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It wont matter what you shoot it through, when you have a Bear in your sights, you wont feel a thing when you pull the trigger.
Wolf is good. Its accurate, consistent stuff through a Mosin.
Accurate is more important than bullet construction, but , for sure, the soft points run through a Black Bear wont disappoint you.
Wolf is good. Its accurate, consistent stuff through a Mosin.
Accurate is more important than bullet construction, but , for sure, the soft points run through a Black Bear wont disappoint you.
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MISportsman
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Thank you
WisBorn
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I like the stock military mosin. The only change is a recoil pad to give it a little extra length.
Have fun on your hunt and be safe!
Have fun on your hunt and be safe!
T.R.
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My Mosin shoots this ammo much more accurately than the common lighter loadings. I think that its because the longer bullet has less jump to reach the rifling. Recoil is noticeable.
Where did you find this ammo?
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Where did you find this ammo?
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MISportsman
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SGammo carries it. I have not been able to find it anywhere else yet. Its only running around $10 a box too which I found very reasonable.
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MISportsman
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Sorry, I just did a search again. Lucky gunner and bulk ammo both have it is stock now too
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