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Wolf Small Rifle Primers for AR

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by CZ52GUY, Nov 28, 2008.

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  1. CZ52GUY

    CZ52GUY Member

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    Anyone have experience with Wolf Small Rifle Primers and/or Small Rifle Magnum Rifles out of AR?

    Wideners has a notation recommending SRM for semi-auto because the SR are copper, SRM is brass.

    I'm using match triggers and want to find that sweet spot where the primer ignites the powder, but avoiding slam-fires.

    Thanks,

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  2. ants

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    I used my first 1000 Wolf SR in all 4 of my AR's and just bought 5000 more. No problem.

    Then again, I've been loading 223 with Winchester, Remington and CCI for more than 10 years with no problems either. I would bet lunch for a week, for every slam-fire that actually occurs there are a half million to a million AR rifles that never do that. In fact, at our range we haven't seen a AR slam-fire episode in the 15 years we've been shooting there. Are we the lucky ones? No, the slam-fires are the unlucky ones. Slam fire is the tiny exception, certainly not the rule. It doesn't run my life, nor make my decisions for me.
     
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    My match triggers use standard hammer springs. Match triggers do no necessarily create lighter hammer strikes. Hammer spring and hammer weight determine the energy with which the hammer strikes. Be sure to clean your bolt carrier group regularly so you don't lose the energy of the strike.

    I'll bet the Widener's note is a CYA because they sell to a lot of loaders out there. It pays to cover yourself.
     
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    It's Wolf that recommends magnum primers, not Widener's.
    The only difference between Wolf's magnum and standard sm. rifle is the cup thickness, the amount of compound is the same.

    Besides slam fires, there are other issues to consider like pierced primers, flattened primers and blown primers.
    Since Wolf's magnums are the same price as their SRP's , there's no reason not to use them in AR's.
     
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    Thanks to all

    I keep my rifles in good repair. The Jards use 3# springs. I tried a lighter spring and had one triple on me during an action shooting run. Replaced with the 3# spring and haven't had a problem since.

    I've done some research with other sources also, and the general consensus seems to be that Wolf provides a good primer with superior ES performance, good accuracy, and great value.

    I've heard of good results with both the SR and SRM. Since I load for .223 for both semi and bolt, I expect I'll end up trying some of both.

    Thanks again!

    CZ52'
     
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    Cool. Let us know how it works out.

    I believe the 3# spring in the Jard trigger is not the hammer spring, it's the trigger spring. If that's true, the heavier trigger spring keeps you from firing multiple rounds because it keeps your finger from bouncing on the trigger, which sometimes results in 'bump fire', especially with a match sear. Same thing happened to me with the 1-1/2# spring.
     
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    I just ordered some of the Wolf small rifle mag primers as well. It will be interesting to try them, but from all reports I expect them to do well. My cheapo .223 plinking/blasting rounds will never know the difference anyway.

    Yep, the standard are all copper to be more sensitive, and the mags are all brass to be harder.
     
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