Woman kills neighbor’s wolves in self-defense

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Domestic or wild, it doesn't matter. If an animal is threatening you and yours, you have a right to take reasonable measures to defend yourself. That doesn't mean you should whip out the magnum and drill little Muffy if a kick will dissuade the little ankle biter, but in the situation described, lethal force seems appropriate.

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for me..seeing a wolf in the wild..if far less threatening than seeing an unleashed pit bull on a city street..

as for keeping a wolf as a pet...right...keep it next to the well trained tigers..

venice beach on weekends some folks have their snakes wrapped around them and have even seen some fool with a falcon on his shoulder...why not a tiger on a leash..

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"for me..seeing a wolf in the wild..if far less threatening than seeing an unleashed pit bull on a city street.."

How about seeing one in your neighborhood, with your beagle in its mouth?


"why not a tiger on a leash.."

Because most people have common sense!;)
 
I knew a guy

Who kept a wolf in New York city, He would walk his wolf at
0300 and would walk from his loft in the village to Central Park and back.

(@ least 5 miles)...I asked him why would he walk thru the park
(a dangerous thing to do at night) he laughed and said
"people have tried, but I do have a wolf"

btw the wolf was huge, it looked like seven ft long and was never on a leash.:cool:

I was told by someone else who had a wolf that they are fine pets , but that you really have to understand wolf (pack) psychology
 
No matter how you see the whole wolf/wolf-hybrid as a pet thing it still
was a good shoot.

Now I have had a good amount of experience with captive wolves as well
as hybrids and even a little bit with wild wolves. If some one has a pure
breed wolf as a pet that is from a line of several generations born in captivity
or even a hybrid, dominance must be established at the beginning. They also
must be treated as any large dog that even in play they can injure a small
child.

Captive pure breed wolves are considered different than wolf-hybrids for a
good reason. They still have a great deal of wild in them. Even hybrids can
be a bit scary at times but no more so than any large "dog" (and they are
considered dogs) not well trained. I have not had a negative experience
with either though.

Either way still a good shoot.
 
A lot of posters in this thread prolly opposed the release of wolves to Yellowstone because they thought they would eat their children.
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most of the folks who opposed the restocking of wolves in Yellowston were opposed because they thought that they would not stay in Yellowstone and by george they were right. Now they have set up house keeping for hundreds of miles from the park and are killing deer, elk, moose, buffalo, bear and even their cousin the cayotes.
 
Well, I definitely got some flames shot my way. One thing that cracked me up a little bit, was people trying to make me feel bad or embarrassed about living in S Cali. Sorry, I quite happy to live a literal stone's throw from the pacific. The landscape is beautiful, the weather is beautiful, and the women are even more beautiful than both put together. Our gun laws suck, but I do vote religiously, and try to change that. At the same time, I know plenty of gun fans (even nuts) around here.

Besides that, I think I was clear, and my comments were misconstrued. I think this woman did the right thing, by shooting these wolves, if they threatened her. My girlfriends brother in law has had a problem with a pack of dogs in his neighborhood (domesticated house-dogs that pack up and get vicious? no way!). I told him he should arm himself. Any animal that attacks a human being, should be taken out, or taken care of. It's the later posts, acting as if wolves were vicious animals just waiting to kill people. All of you have read plenty of propaganda about guns, and how dangerous they are. You know better, so why the double standard when it is something you know nothing about? You fear an animal you have no experience with. I have a lot of experience with them. Don't believe the sensational crap!

All dogs can be wild. All wolves can be wild. If they are domestic, and heavily socialized, they are safe (most of the time, depends on the dog). Thing about wolves is, they are confident animals, and guess what? family oriented. Dogs like pitts and rotts are very skiddish, and therefore often bite out of fear. Wolves are not fearful around their 'pack' (me and my family). They don't do tricks, and they like to sleep outside, but are the tamest dogs I have ever met. One of my wolves, I used to do taming trick. I held a piece of steak in my fingers, let her put my hand in her mouth, and made her stay still till I said ok. She would then use her tongue to dislodge the raw meat. Yes, some people would cringe a bit (this was a big dog, with really big teeth) bit she never so much as knicked me. Wolves only hunt with their teeth, they fight with their paws, which no other dogs but hybrids do. When other dogs have come after my wolves, my girls would bat them down with their paws, every time others lunged, and then pinned them. They were very effective. My wolves only bit 2 things, rodents and chickens, but they ate them afterwards, and I cannot well blame them for eating a chicken while grilling up some hot wings!


Really, wolves are similar to dogs, if anything they are safer. They keep their cool, where as many freak out if things are out of the ordinary.

Yes, I was offended about people who have never lived with a wolf, start preaching about how wolves are.
Even in the wild, there has NEVER been a proven wolf attack in North America. EVER! hell even deer attack people every so often. I've even had geese attack me at the local park!There was one case in canada a few months ago. I talked to many people in the area. They did not believe wolves were responsible, they blamed packs of wild dogs (from surrounding communities) that had threatened many people in the area for a long time. There was one article that said it might have been wolves, that was it. A few others said it was a bear. Nobody knows.

I have loved every dog I have owned, dearly, but the wolves were the magic animals. They had a spirit like no dog ever could.
One other great plus, wolves don't bark, only kind of grumble or howl. No complaints from the neighbors! They are a true FAMILY member. Labs and such are nice, always happy to see you, and always at your feet, they are a fun. Working dogs, great help, and also great companions, but a wolf, is a family member in a larger way. I'm probably also a bit biased right now, since I just recently put down the best dog I ever had, who was a beautiful female grey wolf named Denali. I miss her, and have never met a dog like her, and I've had a lot of them.
 

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What a beautiful dog, a very caring intelligent face.
I can understand how you feel, I had a rottie/lab mix growing up and he was a big lug who never understood why everyone was so afraid of him (I lived in a bad NY hood so I was glad they were)

I am not aginst wild wolves at all or even pet ones, a friend of a friend has 7
on his 60 acre ranch...What irks me is they tell me I can not carry in Yellowstone but grizz and wolf can keep their teeth and claws.

I think ranchers are concerned with livestock, understandable...no livestock seems to wander onto my friends friends ranch:evil:

I am not much of a hunter myself, being a new yorker never really afforded me much opportunity, I had a license though!

When I get around to learning how to hunt I probably wouldn't hunt wolf, maybe a mountain lion though...
 
I have had dogs all of my life as has most southerners. They are a part of our culture. My favorites have always been large dogs and in particular Catahoula Curs. THey, primarily originated in South Louisiana and, I am told, is a cross between something that the French had and local Indian guard dogs, The bread is one of the most recent recognized by the AKC. :barf:

The main difference between most folks who have owned dogs all of their lives and those who only made their acquantance later in life is that we recognize that they are animals and can in the blink of an eye revert to their natural ways. :mad:

A dog, any dog, under the right circumstances will bite and even though one might attempt to get out of the way it is resonable to accept ones right to use deadly force if he truly fears for his own safety. :cuss:
The lady did the right thing.:D
 
The name of this forum is what again???

Word to the wise: watch the flaming, it may cost someone their membership. Opinions are one thing, firing insults is entirely another.

To each their own, as far as pets go, so long as they are controlled. Dogs, wolves, bears, pidgeons, whatever-if not properly controlled could potentially become a liability. They are animals, and function on instinct as well as smarts. So any animal could be dangerous, if the conditions are right.

Personally, given the same circumstances, I'd have shot, too, regardless of whatever animals they were. Can't fault the woman for her actions-she sees her dog has become a meal for wolves, she fires warning shot to scare away said animals & in they turn to her instead? Sorry, I don't see a problem here. Good reaction.

Suiting up in Nomex, just in case...
 
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