Wood stock or not

Wood stock or not


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Wood stock or not:

I am not a hunter, but like to target shoot. And I can understand why some hunters would want a synthetic stock. But I prefer a wood stock for the beauty. To me a good wood stock makes the rifle.

So what is your preference?
 
It`s more of a personal choice. Maybe some areas of the country a composite stock is more the choice. Factors such as lots of rain, snow,what ever. Fit`s a nitch in that area.

Your correct about wood though. A composite stock comes no were near the beauty of wood. Not all but some of the better choices.

One other possible reason for a composite stock on a weapon is the cost . Today everything is about cost. Certainly cheaper to make.
 
I have both and like both. Depending on weather conditions and time of year will determine which I will use. So I can not answer your poll, since my answer would be both.

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Jim
 
Wood stock or not:

I am not a hunter, but like to target shoot. And I can understand why some hunters would want a synthetic stock. But I prefer a wood stock for the beauty. To me a good wood stock makes the rifle.

So what is your preference?
While I also appreciate the beauty of wood the use of a beautiful wood stock has some disadvantages in a target rifle. Unlike wood a good synthetic stock that is aluminum bedded doesn't suffer from temperature and humidity extremes like wood does. It won't warp and change pressure points on the barrel or action.

So without knowing a caliber or other details my general answer would be synthetic for the reasons I mentioned. I have several beautiful wood stocks I removed from target rifles I built up and they shoot much better with the ugly synthetic over the beautiful wood.

Just My Take....
Ron
 
Wood is nice to look at, and to feel. But when it comes to being out in all weather, hot, cold, wet to dry, synthetic wins out. I would never take my M70 Super Grade out in the rain. That is when I grab one of my many synthetic stocked rifles.

Geno
 
While wood may be more affected by weather, it seems to me that most of the woods used in rifle stocks are treated/finished/sealed to withstand the elements pretty well. That's enough for me to take that beautiful wood over synthetic.
 
Both

I didnt vote because I like both. I think a lot of wood stock guns are beautiful. But I like bedded synthetic stocks too. I've had both and like both:)
 
I voted synthetic provided it’s a quality example of one; not some junk factory stock used to drive cost down.

I liked wood until I took a wood stock hunting a few times and it got a few battle scars. Scratches and dings may add character but I cringed every time it got a new one. If the primary reason to have a wood stock is the way it looks then it makes sense to try and keep it looking nice. I apparently use my guns in such a manner that they don’t stay pristine, but I don’t care with the synthetics ones.

I also discovered that some of the recoil reducing devices built into synthetic stocks work fantastic; Benelli ComforTech and TC Flex-Tech stocks to name a few. I‘ll take recoil reduction over a pretty stock any day.
 
Both have their places to me. Too many variables for me to answer. It would be rifle specific as well as use specific.
 
Wood is made from a living, breathing material. Even after it is cut, dried and made into a stock it continues to expand and contract as temperature, humidity, and altitude change. You can coat inside areas with fiberglass bedding, install aluminum pillers, and coat the entire exterior with high tech, modern coatings (really just clear plastic coatings over the wood). When you finish the gun is never actually in contact with anything but synthetic material. And at best you will slightly limit the dimenesional changes in the wood brought on by enviromental changes. It is cheaper, easier and you will get far better results with a synthetic.

I can understand why some hunters would want a synthetic stock.
Me too, but a synthetic is even more important on a target rifle if you want to find the true accuracy potential of your rifle. It ain't gonna happen with wood.

Blow up a ballon, place it in your refrigerator for 1/2 hour and note how much smaller it gets. Take it out, place it in a warm room and it will return to its oiginal size. Do the same thing at low altitude, put it in your car and drive up about 5,000 feet higher and watch how the ballon changes. A wood rifle stock won't change nearly as much, but it is doing the same thing, even of you could completely seal it. You only need stock dimensions to expand or contract by 2-3/1,000" for your gun to change its POI. If conditions change drasically, or if your stock goes through enough expansion cycles it can lead to stock cracks and splits.

Beauty is in the eye of beholder. To me, this is a beautiful rifle. Doing this with a 5 lb rifle is a beautiful thing. And knowing that the POI won't change whether I'm hunting in the Florida swamps, Arizona Desert, or Alaskan coast, at sea level or 10,000' up in the Rockies makes it far prettier than anything made from wood.

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I tried a few synthetic stocked guns, I just never warmed up to them. Life is too short to hunt with an ugly gun. I can respect the durability of synthetic, but I enjoy looking at my nice walnut stocks, and rubbing them down after a hunt or trip to the range. I can look at the gouge on the toe of my M700 stock and remember the time I slid down a canyon wall in Wyoming with it, or look at the scratches is my 10ga BPS stock and think of all the frozen mornings it rode in the bottom of the boat to the duck blind.
 
Wood stock or not:

I am not a hunter, but like to target shoot. And I can understand why some hunters would want a synthetic stock. But I prefer a wood stock for the beauty. To me a good wood stock makes the rifle.

So what is your preference?

OK, let's look at this again. I have no shortage of hunting rifles, most in beautiful American walnut stocks. Some not so beautiful with fond memories of the dings and dents. Mine was a mountain side in WV in snow and that ride truly sucked, thank God for the snow.

All of that and memories of hunting rifles is here nor there. The original poster specifically mentions he doesn't hunt and specifically mentions he likes to target shoot. OK, now you can target shoot with a hunting rifle with a pencil barrel and be content because the rifle can also be used to hunt with and 2 or 3 MOA is fine. Yes, some do better but if you are going to shoot target you generally run with a target rifle and seek much tighter groups than a hunting rifle.

The below rifle was born as a Remington Model 725 chambered in 222 Remington with a pencil barrel. I re barreled the rifle and chambered it in 223 Remington with as can be seen a full contour fluted barrel. Pictured with the original walnut the rifle sits in a synthetic stock with a full size aluminum bedding block. The recoil lug rest against that block because as the rifle is fired wood would crush and movement between the receiver and stock would increase. Additionally I would have had to hog out the original stock barrel channel. I could have done that but for target shooting wood would suck. When you want .5 MOA groups through the 1:12 twist heavy barrel you don't use wood. Not only for the recoil lug but for the other reasons I mentioned earlier. Do I get .5" groups at 100 yards with 55 grain match bullets? Yes! Pretty interesting with the blue and stainless but not as pretty as wood.

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The next rifle is another Remington action that I trued and put a stainless full contour target barrel on. The rifle is pictured with the original wood stock but was actually born stainless. Obviously the stock is not fit for hunting and rest assured this rifle would not be fun to drag around in the woods. The same characteristics that applied to the first rifle also apply to this rifle. This one is chambered in 308 Winchester and before the stock was a 1.5 to 2.0 MOA rifle. Now it delivers sub MOA with Sierra 168 grain Match King bullets.

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Now you can have a hunting rifle or you can have a target rifle. If you want both you can target shoot with a hunting rifle in beautiful wood but don't expect target rifle results from a hunting rifle.

I shoot at a range populated by primarily bench rest shooters. They build target rifles there, If you go here and ask them to build a target rifle in a wood stock they will look at you funny. No, I am not a bench rest shooter, I just like the place. :)

I vote synthetic, that's my story and I am sticking with it.

Ron

P.S. The stocks used on the above rifles were not cheap factory garbage. They ran about $250 plus 15 years ago when the rifles were built.
 
I guess it depends on how accurate you want to be. Myself I am a casual shooter and would consider hitting an 8 ½ x 11 sheet paper anywhere good at 100 / 200 yards good. So for me that kind of accuracy of .5 MOA really would not apply to me.

Some asked what I shoot. I have a Winchester model 70 223, and a Browning A Bolt Medallaon 7 MM Mag with the Boss
 
You don't need a synthetic stock to shoot .5, i have several wood stocks that will do that or better and hold zero...

DM
 
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Laminate! Has somewhat the beauty of wood with the stability of synthetic, especially with an aluminum bedding block and or a glass bedding job. Their warmer than synthetic and colder day (when it does get cold in Alabama!). They feel "real" too, synthetics don't make me smile..... a good fiberglass might.
 
Just for the range? Wood.

Going to be out in the weather and rode hard? Synthetic.

I like wood stocks, esp. oil finish or a really choice piece of wood. Not the painted hardwood of the average hunting rifle or the high gloss plastic shellac seen on Remington's 'high grade'.

It's rare to see a really GOOD piece of wood on a rifle that the average guy can afford.
 
I have two stocks for my .270 Win, Rem 700 BDL Stainless, and both shoot to the same POI. The Stocky's Stock Ultra Walnut stock is pretty and shoots well, but, after a close call when I tripped in the woods, it stays home when I go hunting in bad weather.

The other stock is an HS Precision Sendero take-off that works fine with the standard sporter barrel, making a light, accurate and tough hunting rifle.
 
full float the barrel and glass bed the receiver, and bring your wood stock. Been doing that for 18 years in Alaska.
 
I choose function over looks. How many polymer stocks need repair? Articles about repairing wood stocks abound.
 
I'm a hunter and I really like the McMillan fiberglass stocks but they are expensive and they're the only fiberglass stock I've used that perform as well as wood. The second advantage is they come in camo colors, and I especially like the fiberglass when the weather is wet. On the down side, I can buy three pre 64 Model 70 wood stocks for the price of one McMillan stock. So I use both and I can't tell a difference in the way they perform.
 
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I'm old. I like wood and polished blue.
Gotta go with this, BUT! After I banged a 700 Classic off of a screw -in tree step I bought a Savage 10 Sierra and don't worry about scratching it. The Classic was a 6.5X55 and had a gorgeous piece of fiddleback. I still tear up when I think about it.
 
I've got a 50+ year old Winchester 94 that's got a banged up stock, and for end that got that way from being out in the field. I intend on using it as a hunting rifle in the future. My Mossberg 500 the same way. Its really a personal thing, I hate, I mean Hate the feel of a synthetic stock. I will deal with the weight of a laminate stock, but will not tolerate the feel of synthetic. Makes my skin crawl, nails on the blackboard type stuff.
 
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