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Working on a negative Brady rating.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Twiki357, Mar 2, 2012.

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  1. Twiki357

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    It looks like Arizona is working on a negative ranking by the Brady anti's. Three states ranked zero (Arizona, Alaska, and Utah) on their 2011 rankings. Utah is straight zeros in all categories. Arizona and Alaska are both plus two for "Colleges are not forced to allow firearms on campus" and a minus two for "No Permit Required for CCW" for a net zero.

    I don't know about Alaska and I doubt that Utah will pass permit-less CC in the near future. So that leaves Arizona with a bill currently in the legislature to permit campus carry for CCW permit holders. And, so far it's looking good. The primary hurdle will be a veto by the governor. She vetoed a similar bill last year, but that one was a general campus carry. The current bill limits carry to CCW permit holders only, so maybe.

    I just thought I would throw this out there for anyone who might be interested.
     
  2. Panzercat

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    If it weren't so damn hot in the valley, AZ would be the perfect state for firearms enthusiast :)
     
  3. bigfatdave

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    AZ is looking more and more appealing for so many reasons ... their no-BS approach to weaponry is high on the list.
     
  4. MasterShake

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    I never knew a negative score could be so good.
     
  5. ApacheCoTodd

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    Fear not the heat... ("but it's a dry heat") of Arizona.

    We need more solid Az-type conservatives to balance out the flood of California, Minnesota and New England liberals flooding our beautiful Sonoran Paradise.
     
  6. JohnM

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    I think the Brady crowd places us in Wyoming down pretty close to zero too. :D
     
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    I'm surprised that VA isn't a negative state. It actually gets a surprisingly high Brady rating.

    We have 12 points.

    Breakdown:

    Record keeping: +2
    Police inspection of gun dealers: +2
    One handgun a month with exception: +3
    Child access prevention to children under 14: +1
    Employers not required to allow guns in parking lots: +2
    Colleges not allowed to allow guns: +2
     
  8. JustinJ

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    I just don't get it. Why is it so hard not to spout off about your politics on a board where politcal talk is supposed to be against the rules?
     
  9. crracer_712

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    There's a lot of red states on that list. I like that! Kansas scores 4 points. I'll consider that rating to be like a golf score, lower the better.
     
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    Hey Vermonter's are from New England we're not so bad, I think we have a rating of like 2.
     
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  11. crracer_712

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    They list number of people shot with guns this year, and number of people shot today. To bad they don't give the actual account of the shooting, as in self defense, home defense, gang related etc.

    I mean, i understand why they don't, they wouldn't want to show that sometimes it is justified
     
  12. JohnM

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    That Brady organization gives points for keeping records ans police inspection.
    Wyoming got 4 for that, but I don't know what it is. Never heard of it around here.
    Then we got a -2 when all restrictions on concealed weapons were removed last summer.
     
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    Hey now, it's just Mass and Connecticut that are the bad states, the rest are good and especially New Hampshire. We are really low on the Brady Bunch's rating.
     
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    I'm proud to see that Texas is on the lower end of the score with a 4. Apparently if we can get CC on campus and do away with the law that charges parents for their children's gun crimes we can hit zero. I'd really like to get the lowest possible score of -4 but hey, baby steps right?
     
  15. Manson

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    I like hearing about all those great low scoring states. Wonder were my home state of Florida is. No open carry but pretty 2nd amendment friendly.
     
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    Utah won't mess with permitless carry anytime soon because Gov. Herbert has said he won't sign it. But we are currently working on legislation to state definitively that carrying a gun legally is not disorderly conduct, and to state even more explicitly that a person who tries to sue for injury in your home must prove that they were not engaged in criminal conduct at the time of the injury.
     
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    Florida got 3 points.

    http://www.bradycampaign.org/stategunlaws/
     
  18. TX1911fan

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    mljdeckard, you might just get me to move back to Utah.
     
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    We're reforming our liquor laws too. :D
     
  20. ApacheCoTodd

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    Because JustinJ asked...

    ""I just don't get it. Why is it so hard not to spout off about your politics on a board where politcal talk is supposed to be against the rules?""


    Well... It's DIRECTLY relative to the topic at hand as we will cease to be a haven of common sense in so many areas if the folk who continue to move here from not like minded states outnumber folk who move here for the many freedoms which stand out.

    We already feel the impact regularly when people of particular ideological stances feel they may have the numbers to try to turn Arizona into the very type of political environment that they had left.

    With the right numbers, they can address things like our wonderfully woeful Brady Rating.

    Oh, and right minded denizens of greater New England, many apologies for throwing the broad net on that one. I lived there in the Army and know of the incredible areas of freedom and liberty minded folk out your way.
     
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    +1 ^^^^^
     
  22. Manson

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    Thank you racer.
     
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    How kind of Brady to give us a checklist of things to repeal, and even a point score to track our progress!
     
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    Our state improved pre-emption bill passed the House Committee of the Whole, (actual acronym used, COW!), easily, Third Read next week then to the Senate, which opens up most Public Property/government areas to lawful carry, or they have to maintain armed guards and metla detectors at entrances PLUS lockable safe storage. Suppressors for hunting, no magazine limit for hunting and a few other good ones including Campus Carry and State Guard are advancing well...if they just hadn't changed the name of the State Guard to the ridiculous Arizona Special Missions Unit...stupid acronym.
    We'll get the Brady negative rating if we can, as mentioned before, we could get more good gun people to counterbalance the Calirefugees who seem to want to implement the same laws that forced them to flee Cali. As of this time we outnumber them...for now.
     
  25. awgrizzly

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    I feel your pain Justin, but it's all a matter of words. The topic of gun control laws and how they vary betwixt states is a legit topic, but it can not be easily discussed without some reference to the politics driving it. I'm a democrat, or I was until the party got upended by those I can't come to terms with. All the democrats I knew were patriotic, were at least tolerant of religion, used and enjoyed guns, and would hardly think of running others' lives. It's hard to avoid being included with the nastier element when you share the same party. So perhaps we all best understand that amongst both major parties you have elements that would tend to be anti-constitutional individual liberty types... lets call them progressives, and let's call us better types who love the constitution and individual liberty conservatives. There are good folks and total losers in both parties.
     
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