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Would you trade a Sig 220ST for a CZ-97B

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Rockrivr1, Sep 26, 2006.

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  1. Rockrivr1

    Rockrivr1 Member

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    Ok, here's the deal. I have a Sig 220ST that has been a safe queen. I have 5 mags for it. I could keep the Sig 220ST or I could trade it even for a CZ-97B with 5 mags as well. Taking the price aspect of the two handguns out of it, would you do it and why. If you wouldn't do it, I'd like to know why as well.
     
  2. Deer Hunter

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    I'd do it. But then again, that's just me.
     
  3. PinnedAndRecessed

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    $ 663.00 MSRP in CZ-97B :barf:
    $ 935.00 MSRP on SIG P-220 ST :cool:

    With that out of the equation, no. Absolutely not. Matter of opinion, I hate the looks of the CZ. The SIG fits better in MY hands. I would therefore not even consider it. Nothing against the Czechs, just prefer Swiss design with German production machinery:)

    Hope this helps:D
     
  5. Rockrivr1

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    I'm taking the price part of the equation out of the picture as here in Mass we cannot buy a CZ as they are not on the AG list. That is unless someone moves into the state with one or it's pre-ban. Because of this ban, the CZs actually cost more in most instances then a used Sig 220ST.

    I've never shot a CZ before, but the opportunity to get this CZ came up and yes, I was thinking of a change. But I don't want to get rid of a quality handgun like the 220 for something that is sub par.

    Hummmmm
     
  6. kevin387

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    No, I have the sig and its the one beside the bed. That's a strong endorsement.
     
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    man i have a cz75 nice gun i like it, that being said i have shot a few sigs, and these is coming from a cz owner mind you. The sig is superior to my cz any day of the week, dont do it.
     
  8. PinnedAndRecessed

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    Because of your ban, maybe.

    But keep in mind that the prices I quoted you are in the real world and reflect the relative quality of the two guns. You absolutely get what you pay for and you will be trading for a drastically inferior handgun.

    The 220ST is one of the best constructed, durable, accurate handguns available. Don't give it up.
     
  9. candr44

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    I don't have a Sig but I do have a CZ97. If you want to use the CZ for self defense, keep in mind that they don't like hollow points. The CZ is very accurate though and recoil is mild for a .45. They aren't as hard to get a grip on as some people make them out to be. I have average sized hands and don't have a problem with the grip size.

    Try shooting the CZ first if you can then decide if you want it more than the Sig. Or just buy it and keep both. Personally, I like the CZ97 very much but I don't think I would give up the Sig to get it.

    Sigs have a good reputation for quality but price doesn't always reflect the level of quality. CZ,s are well made guns and sometimes price reflects the level of cost in manufactering in different parts of the world. Sometimes you get more than what you pay for and sometimes you pay more than its worth.
     
  10. Eightball

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    I love the CZ. Don't have one, but want one.

    But if I had a SIG already, i probably wouldn't trade. Sigs are....sigs. A CZ is not.
     
  11. 10-Ring

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    Why is the SIG a safe queen? Is there something wrong w/ it? If not, how does it shoot? Do you even remotely like it?
    If the 220st is a gun you like, don't get rid of it...save you $$
    If you don't like that 220st, then by all means, get rid of it and get something you'll shoot!
     
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    Mercedes for a Yugo?



    I say "no-go".
     
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    Unless you have hands like the Incredible Hulk.....

    stay AWAY from the CZ-97. It's an outstanding pistol, but it's HUGE.
     
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    From a $$$ aspect, it is a bad deal.

    From a quality aspect, I suspect hte SIG edges the CZ97 out.

    From a manual of arms perspective (SIG DA vs CZ C&L capable), I would go with the CZ.

    If you had the SIG P220SAO with C&L cpability, it would be no question (if the SIG fit your hands): keep the SIG.
     
  15. mons meg

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    Try one out, I don't think you'll find it sup-par.

    At the risk of sounding un-HighRoadish...do you have any idea what you're talking about? ;)

    Sigs are fine weapons. I happen to be of the opinion that they are a tad overpriced. CZs are fine weapons, which I find to be undervalued/underappreciated by those who don't have experience with them....it's not some fly by night organization, y'know...

    Nothing against SIG whatsoever, my hand just doesn't fit them like it does my CZ75. A friend also lets me shoot his 97, and I was worried about the large grip, but it turned out to be unfounded. Makes the .45acp very easy to shoot.

    Also, the 97 isn't really any bigger than a full size 1911. :p
     
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    If you're not crazy about the Sig and really want the CZ, then yes, but make it a three-way trade. Trade the Sig for the cash it is worth and then trade SOME of the cash for a CZ. Then spend the rest on ammo.

    The Sig is absolutely a top-notch weapon, no doubt about it. Better than the CZ by most accounts (although there's nothing wrong with them, either). Just because it is "Top-Notch" doesn't make it the gun for you. Few would argue that a "snake-eyes" 2.5-inch Colt Python "out-classes" my relatively plain 3" S+W model 65. That doesn't make me a better shot with the Colt or make it feel better in my hand...

    chocolate and vanilla......
     
  17. High Planes Drifter

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    I'd research that 97 before considering it. I've read alot on the CZ board that they have feeding problems with hollowpoint ammo. Here's a link:

    http://p201.ezboard.com/fczechpistols82792frm36


    Go back thru it a few pages. There's plenty of topics on how to modify the gun to make it work with HP, like doing ramp jobs and such. Theres also plenty of topics on problems (various problems).
     
  18. Cousin Mike

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    Would you trade a Sig 220ST...

    ...for a CZ? :scrutiny: :cuss: :confused: :what: :fire: :banghead:

    Man, HELL NO!!!

    Are you crazy?

    :D
     
  19. GungHo

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    I love CZs, and I love SIGs, and these are both great guns. However, I never advocate trading off firearms. You will always regret it.
     
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    Respectfully, ain't no way in hell I would make that trade. :)
     
  21. Rockrivr1

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    Thanks everyone for the replys. I think after reading these posts, I'm going to pass on the trade. Hummmmm, maybe I'll hold out trading the Sig for a HK USP 45 some day down the road. ;)
     
  22. BamBam-31

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    BUY the CZ 97 if it's that hard to come by. DO NOT trade the 220 ST for it, as the 220 ST is, in my opinion, a very high quality weapon.

    220 ST's got a slimmer grip, better trigger, better sights, better ergos (for most). It's just a more refined weapon. Mine's SUPER accurate. You need to shoot yours more. :)

    97's got higher capacity. Haven't shot one yet, but from all accounts, a very rugged, reliable, and accurate weapon also.

    I traded away a 226 ST + $$$ for a Les Baer Supertac w/ 1.5" guarantee. That's trading UP, not DOWN. Trading the 220 ST for a 97 would be trading down.

    Just buy the darn thing.

    Edited to add: Ah, I see the 97 is no longer on your wish list, but the 220 ST is still in your dog house. Why? If you're looking at an HK USP .45 and a CZ 97b, you must have pretty large hands. Keep the Sig, it's one of those guns you'll regret getting rid of later on....
     
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    Edited to add: Ah, I see the 97 is no longer on your wish list, but the 220 ST is still in your dog house. Why?

    To be honest I have no idea. I do like it a lot, but it's the only handgun in my collection that seem to not make it out of my safe very often. I'd love to just buy the CZ but $650 is steep. Not that steep of a price for it here in Mass, but it's still steep. Oh, I can see the replys when people see the price these are going for a used one in this state.

    As to trading it for a HK, the HK is damn near impossible to get here for less then $800. Most used USPs go for closer to $1K.

    You know, I think I'm going to take the 220 to the range this weekend and run it through it's paces.
     
  24. varoadking

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    Not just no...hell, no...
     
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    Dude I wouldn't trade YOUR SIG P220 for a CZ97 much less my own P220.

    So count me among the Hell no camp.

    CZ makes a fine, fine gun but the 97 is just too big and seems to have had quite a few early teething problems with ammo sensativity.

    Now I am a SIG guy at heart so take it for what it is worth.
     
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