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Wow... Country of 60 million...

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Afy, Apr 25, 2007.

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  1. Afy

    Afy Member

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    with 19 Million registered guns...

    Until recently shotguns and .22 lr didnt need to be registered.... and to date a large number of them in circulation are not. Some are even sold in flea markets...

    This excludes all balck powder guns since those are not registered at all....

    Vive La France!

    BTW: There is a huge number of WWII guns which are completely undeclared... in circulation. Most are owned by people who have fairly large (by french standards) "Legal" collections.

    :)
     
  2. The Viking

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    I was under the impression that you simply needed to have a hunting permit to buy some types of rifles and shotguns?
     
  3. Geronimo45

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    All the French jokes, and y'all seem to have more gun freedom than the Brits do!
     
  4. Cromlech

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    They have the same population as us then, but WAY more registered firearms!
     
  5. 30 cal slob

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    full autos too at some point!

    a comparison between aussie and french gun laws:

    http://www.ssaa.org.au/newssaa/political archive/legislativereports/aug97.htm

     
  6. Hoppy590

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    congrats Afy, maybe you can start to take back some ground in europe!
     
  7. Afy

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    BTW the laws posted are a little out of date. Everything other than 8th category now needs regsteration... hence the number of "illegal" guns has gone up. Since not a lot of people are aware of the change.

    I actually got looked at like I had two heads at the Police Staition (Gendamarie) when I went to declare a shotgun bought before the change....
     
  8. PPGMD

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    I was talking to a Briton at my range, he said that many of the British gun clubs are moving to France. :what:
     
  9. Afy

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    30 Cal: It is still possible to get a full auto it only takes about 2 years... and you do need to establish your credentials as a "certified gun nut" :)

    Btw silencers are not regulated... :)
     
  10. PPGMD

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    France has more freedom then the US firearms wise.
     
  11. CWL

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    The French try a form of "gun control" by limiting the number of cartridges an owner is allowed to purchase every year. This is 1000 cartridges per gun per year.

    As a result of this, there is a very active underground economy for reloaded ammunition among serious shooters.

    I have gone shooting in France, the gun owners are a very friendly group. It is remarkable that alcohol was served at the range I attended. In addition, there was not much regard for the 4 basic safety rules of firearms. I do not think there is much formal defensive firearms training in France as exists in the USA.
     
  12. Mr White

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    That's all well and good, but I think Afy mentioned in another post that in France, K31's go for about $1000 USD. Imagine what an AR or a Garand sells for.

    Is that because of taxes, or import restrictions, or jsut supply and demand?
     
  13. Fosbery

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    Interesting. Following the handgun ban in 1996/7, British shooters began looking for alternative locations to shoot. Northern Ireland was exempt from the ban, but they're very strict on guns, in fact I don't believe the police there have actually permitted any civillian owned handguns since the Troubles, except for self-defence for certain politicians and the like (one rule for us etc).

    Certain islands around Britain are also exempt and became quite popular until the local governments took steps to stop 'gun tourism'.

    France, being close, was used by shooters who went and used club guns, but you'll be lucky to find anything better than a battered old Browning 9mm and foreigners cannot own their own guns.

    THe most attractive choice therefore is of course: Switzerland! Fill out a quick form for a foreginers gun permit and you can do whatever the hell you like, pretty much. That is, until they banned full autos a few years back :(
     
  14. Archer1945

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    Without doing a great deal of research it almost sounds that on a per capita basis France might have almost as many guns as the US does. It seems the major difference is the idea that a person is responsible for their actions, not an object, such as a gun. Maybe we need to re-educate the law schools to teach the students things cannot violate laws, it is the person using it who is respoonsible.:) Now that is a unique idea, lawyers having to tell their clients they have to take responsibility for their actions because things are incapable of acting on their own volition.:D
     
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