WV State Code and CCW on Campus

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I'm e-mailing several WV house representatives about a section of the state code that the university uses to justify not allowing firearms on campus. This is the section of the state code:

§61-7-11a. Possessing deadly weapons on premises of educational facilities; reports by school principals; suspension of driver license; possessing deadly weapons on premises housing courts of law and in offices of family law master.
(a) The Legislature hereby finds that the safety and welfare of the citizens of this state are inextricably dependent upon assurances of safety for children attending, and the persons employed by, schools in this state and for those persons employed with the judicial department of this state. It is for the purpose of providing such assurances of safety, therefore, that subsections (b), (g) and (h) of this section are enacted as a reasonable regulation of the manner in which citizens may exercise those rights accorded to them pursuant to section twenty-two, article three of the Constitution of the state of West Virginia.
(b) (1) It shall be unlawful for any person to possess any firearm or any other deadly weapon on any school bus as defined in section one, article one, chapter seventeen-a of this code, or in or on any public or private primary or secondary education building, structure, facility or grounds thereof, including any vocational education building, structure, facility or grounds thereof where secondary vocational education programs are conducted or at any school-sponsored function.
(2) This subsection shall not apply to:
(A) A law-enforcement officer acting in his or her official capacity;
(B) A person specifically authorized by the board of education of the county or principal of the school where the property is located to conduct programs with valid educational purposes;
(C) A person who, as otherwise permitted by the provisions of this article, possesses an unloaded firearm or deadly weapon in a motor vehicle, or leaves an unloaded firearm or deadly weapon in a locked motor vehicle;
(D) Programs or raffles conducted with the approval of the county board of education or school which include the display of unloaded firearms; or
(E) The official mascot of West Virginia University, commonly known as "The Mountaineer", acting in his or her official capacity.
(3) Any person violating this subsection shall be guilty of a felony, and, upon conviction thereof, shall be imprisoned in the penitentiary of this state for a definite term of years of not less than two years nor more than ten years, or fined not more than five thousand dollars, or both.
(c) It shall be the duty of the principal of each school subject to the authority of the state board of education to report any violation of subsection (b) of this section discovered by such principal to the state superintendent of schools within seventy-two hours after such violation occurs. The state board of education shall keep and maintain such reports and may prescribe rules establishing policy and procedures for the making and delivery of the same as required by this subsection. In addition, it shall be the duty of the principal of each school subject to the authority of the state board of education to report any violation of subsection (b) of this section discovered by such principal to the appropriate local office of the division of public safety within seventy-two hours after such violation occurs.
(d) In addition to the methods of disposition provided by article five, chapter forty-nine of this code, any court which adjudicates a person who is fourteen years of age or older as delinquent for a violation of subsection (b) of this section may, in its discretion, order the division of motor vehicles to suspend any driver's license or instruction permit issued to such person for such period of time as the court may deem appropriate, such suspension, however, not to extend beyond such person's nineteenth birthday; or, where such person has not been issued a driver's license or instruction permit by this state, order the division of motor vehicles to deny such person's application for the same for such period of time as the court may deem appropriate, such denial, however, not to extend beyond such person's nineteenth birthday. Any suspension ordered by the court pursuant to this subsection shall be effective upon the date of entry of such order. Where the court orders the suspension of a driver's license or instruction permit pursuant to this subsection, the court shall confiscate any driver's license or instruction permit in the adjudicated person's possession and forward the same to the division of motor vehicles.
(e) (1) If a person eighteen years of age or older is convicted of violating subsection (b) of this section, and if such person does not act to appeal such conviction within the time periods described in subdivision (2) of this subsection, such person's license or privilege to operate a motor vehicle in this state shall be revoked in accordance with the provisions of this section.
(2) The clerk of the court in which the person is convicted as described in subdivision (1) of this subsection shall forward to the commissioner a transcript of the judgment of conviction. If the conviction is the judgment of a magistrate court, the magistrate court clerk shall forward such transcript when the person convicted has not requested an appeal within twenty days of the sentencing for such conviction. If the conviction is the judgment of a circuit court, the circuit clerk shall forward such transcript when the person convicted has not filed a notice of intent to file a petition for appeal or writ of error within thirty days after the judgment was entered.
(3) If, upon examination of the transcript of the judgment of conviction, the commissioner shall determine that the person was convicted as described in subdivision (1) of this subsection, the commissioner shall make and enter an order revoking such person's license or privilege to operate a motor vehicle in this state for a period of one year, or, in the event the person is a student enrolled in a secondary school, for a period of one year or until the person's twentieth birthday, whichever is the greater period. The order shall contain the reasons for the revocation and the revocation period. The order of suspension shall advise the person that because of the receipt of the court's transcript, a presumption exists that the person named in the order of suspension is the same person named in the transcript. The commissioner may grant an administrative hearing which substantially complies with the requirements of the provisions of section two, article five-a, chapter seventeen-c of this code upon a preliminary showing that a possibility exists that the person named in the notice of conviction is not the same person whose license is being suspended. Such request for hearing shall be made within ten days after receipt of a copy of the order of suspension. The sole purpose of this hearing shall be for the person requesting the hearing to present evidence that he or she is not the person named in the notice. In the event the commissioner grants an administrative hearing, the commissioner shall stay the license suspension pending the commissioner's order resulting from the hearing.
(4) For the purposes of this subsection, a person is convicted when such person enters a plea of guilty or is found guilty by a court or jury.
(f) (1) It shall be unlawful for any parent(s), guardian(s) or custodian(s) of a person less than eighteen years of age who knows that said person is in violation of subsection (b) of this section, or who has reasonable cause to believe that said person's violation of said subsection is imminent, to fail to immediately report such knowledge or belief to the appropriate school or law-enforcement officials.
(2) Any person violating this subsection shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars, or shall be confined in jail not more than one year, or both.
(g) (1) It shall be unlawful for any person to possess any firearm or any other deadly weapon on any premises which houses a court of law or in the offices of a family law master.
(2) This subsection shall not apply to:
(A) A law-enforcement officer acting in his or her official capacity; and
(B) A person exempted from the provisions of this subsection by order of record entered by a court with jurisdiction over such premises or offices.
(3) Any person violating this subsection shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars, or shall be confined in jail not more than one year, or both.
(h) (1) It shall be unlawful for any person to possess any firearm or any other deadly weapon on any premises which houses a court of law or in the offices of a family law master with the intent to commit a crime.
(2) Any person violating this subsection shall be guilty of a felony, and, upon conviction thereof, shall be imprisoned in the penitentiary of this state for a definite term of years of not less than two years nor more than ten years, or fined not more than five thousand dollars, or both.
(i) Nothing in this section may be construed to be in conflict with the provisions of federal law.

I do not see how this section applies to Universities and Colleges in West Virginia. This is the e-mail I sent to several representatives throughout WV:

I have a question about the State Code in Chapter 61-7-11a. This section of the code is used by the university to justify that the carry or possession of firearms on campus is illegal. However, this section never specifically mentions universities. It says, "The Legislature hereby finds that the safety and welfare of the citizens of this state are inextricably dependent upon assurances of safety for children attending, and the persons employed by, schools in this state and for those persons employed with the judicial department of this state."

If the purpose is to protect children, then how can this section apply to the university? I ask because I believe that not only mine, but all enrolled in West Virginia colleges are having their civil liberties violated. It has become apparent with the mass of school shootings recently that the police and other authorities cannot ensure our protection. I alone am responsible for my safety, and I believe that this policy hinders West Virginia citizens from self-preservation. I ask you to consider protecting the students of WVU and other WV campuses and work for our civil liberties. Thank you.

Any recommendations on how I should proceed? And do you guys interpret this section of state code the way I do?
 
Wait and see what replies you get back.

Also call your rep and see what he says.

Speak to him/her personally.
 
Well, I've received one response so far. I sent the e-mail to about a dozen or so representatives.

This is her response:

That I guess is a question either for the Attorney General's interpretation or the State Superintendent of Schools. Or if you wanted to go a step further, for the judicial system to interpret based on the constitution
Do you have a gun permit?

Sharon Spencer

I responded asking her how she might recommend following her advice. I told her that I normally open carry because I am in the process of getting my CCW.
 
You should have stated that a permit is not needed to carry a firearm in this state. She didn't ask if you had a CCW, she is most likely uninformed on the laws regarding open carry in the state.

BTW, we should go shooting sometime. Either at Marstiller's or the new public gun range.

Later,
Chrome...

(b) (1) It shall be unlawful for any person to possess any firearm or any other deadly weapon on any school bus as defined in section one, article one, chapter seventeen-a of this code, or in or on any public or private primary or secondary education building, structure, facility or grounds thereof, including any vocational education building, structure, facility or grounds thereof where secondary vocational education programs are conducted or at any school-sponsored function.

What this boils down to is: is WVU considered a secondary education facility?

One thing I find interesting is the exemptions from the subsection:

(E) The official mascot of West Virginia University, commonly known as "The Mountaineer", acting in his or her official capacity.

This says "without saying it" that WVU is a no-gun zone.

Later,
Chrome...
 
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You should have stated that a permit is not needed to carry a firearm in this state.


Oh, I did. Forgot to mention that in the post. I think she's from the Charleston area. :barf: I hope she'll inform me of the judicial route. I just don't see how the code can be interpreted for Colleges and Universities.

BTW, we should go shooting sometime. Either at Marstiller's or the new public gun range

New public range? Where at? Unfortunately, a bunch of problems came up with my car and stuff, so it looks like I'm taking the Sigma back to Cabela's (I don't have any other pistols at the moment). I'll have to wait until spring to buy another one. However, I would be happy to furnish ammo.

is WVU considered a secondary education facility?

I'm pretty sure colleges and universities are considered post-secondary. Secondary schools are high schools. And yeah, I wondered about that part with the mascot. But does he ever visit high schools or middle schools? If he were, then I would see that section applying.
 
New public range? Where at?

It's on Rt. 7 exactly 3.0 miles past Meadow Ponds Golf Course if you are coming from the Rt. 7/19 intersection. I've not shot yet, but I did swing by there yesterday. Nice benches, but sure doesn't look like 100 yards to me. But I am bad with distances. Looked more like the targets were 25 and 50 yards. I need to take my 10/22 out and get it sighted back in sometime.

looks like I'm taking the Sigma back

You didn't really want a Sigma anyways. :p

does he ever visit high schools or middle schools? If he were, then I would see that section applying.

Not sure. At second glance it never mentions the campus, just in his "official capacity." That's a good point.

Later,
Chrome...
 
Carry at West Virginia Colleges is legal. If you open carry you will be ask to leave and you must leave. If you have a CCW you can carry concealed unless they post a sign. Some people say signs are not legal in WV. They are. It is the same as you posting a sign that says no trespassing on my property. The school (College)administration has the authority to post their grounds.

Now students at the school can not carry as they signed away their right. IF they are caught with a firearm and are not breaking any other law with that firearm they can only be kicked out of school.

The WV mascot is exempt as he visits many elementary and secondary schools in the state and must have that exemption to take his musket onto the school property. The county School superintendent can give you permission to carry on school property if you have CCW.

I am a WV resident and insturct the NRA class for those wishing to obtain a CCW in WV.
 
Carry at West Virginia Colleges is legal.

The problem is, I work with the University Police (yes, they are real police) and they say that it is illegal. If they find someone with a gun on campus, they usually arrest them.

Where do you teach your NRA class and what's required in your class for graduation?
 
The University Police are breaking the law. Universities are not mentioned in the law. If the Facility is not mentioned in the law it is not covered by the law. IF they arrest someone they can be sued for false arrest. WV law is very black and white on this.
 
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