WW2 submachine guns

Which semi clone of a submachine gun would you get?

  • PPSh-41

    Votes: 39 60.0%

  • Soumi M-31

    Votes: 19 29.2%

  • PPS-43

    Votes: 7 10.8%
  • Total voters
    65
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If you were going to buy a semi-auto version of one of the following WW2 era submachine guns, which would you choose and why? Feel free to make your decision on aestetic, economic or historical reasons as long as you explain them. :)

1. PPSh-41
2. Soumi M-31
3. PPS-43

Tex
 
ppsh-41, b/c the gun could accepth the 71rd drum magazines and has a lot of history to it.
 
Swiss Rexim would be nice....They wouldn't even have to slap on a funny looking legal length barrel, already 18". But barring that I'll say PPSH.
 
PPsH 41 Wins.

Same. 7.62 Tokarev isn't in the same league as the .45 coming from the business end of a Thompson, but hey, the 41 was reliable and packs a fairly respectable amount of firepower before you have to reload... I think in real combat it's easy to lose track of your ammo in all that excitement. :what:
 
Suomi -- more accurate (important for a semiauto), quality manufacture, uses cheap 9x19. Sentimental reasons optional.
 
Suomi -- more accurate (important for a semiauto), quality manufacture, uses cheap 9x19. Sentimental reasons optional.
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Me too. Drums are cheap
 
I chose the PPS43 because it has all the features that make some politicians crap their insides out. And it just looks cool, the way it's built. I just like it for some reason. If I had to get only one pistol caliber carbine in my life then I'd be happy with a semi auto PPS43.
 
Is this in reference to the units Military Gun Supply [or whatever the name] is marketing?

They are pricey. Just wondering if any THRers have actually seen one 1st hand or fired one.


Best,

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The Ad for the Suomi also caught my eye. That was my pick due to using standard ammo. I would like to hear if any one has shot one of them.
pete
 
If it was up to me, I'd have an MP-38, which is basically a milled version of the MP-40.

But seeing that's not an option, I'd go with the PPS-43, for the same reason as posted above -- it would drive the antis insane (but hey, so would a 71 round drum), and because it just looks neat-o.
 
Suomi M/31 since the PPSh-41 drum was a copy of the m/31 drum.
9x19 has enough power to pierce 4" of pine tree after 200m when fired from the 314mm barrel.
Quick change of barrel with barrels numbered 1-9.
Replace the barrel with the same number as the gun and you don't lose accuracy. Each weapon was test fired for accuracy before leaving the factory. Minimum was under 35mm from 100m when fired from a bench.
Rate of fire is somewhere between 700-900 depending of the cartridge pressure. And for sentimental reasons- Viljami Pylkäs scored 86 russians with 16 40rd clips in a defensive fight early 1942.. in one firefight.
 
We've got a full auto PPsh at FBMG, so you can guess how I voted. :)

It is actually a very fun gun to shoot. We installed a 9mm barrel. Most of my subgun time has been on the MP5, and I had only ever heard negative things about the controlability of the open bolt PPsh, but I found it really easy to control. I could easily crank off three shot bursts into the head of an IDPA target out to about fifteen yards. You could keep a long burst dead center, piece of cake.

It is a cool little piece of history. Heavy little bugger, but man can it shoot.
 
Ditto on wish for an MP40 clone, but the PPsH41 would win my vote, for the instant recognition, and just plain coolness factor! the '43 was a better gun, I know, but the '41 is just too awesome!
 
Thanks for the input guys. I'm agree with the majority of the opinions expressed.

I like the PPSh-41 for the historical reasons, even with a BAFTE mandated "extended" barrel and shroud, after all it helped defend Russia against the German army and was effective enough that it was used by the enemy when captured. But I'm not excited about the 7.62x25mm round.

I like the Soumi M-31 for historical reasons, though it's got that mandated "extended" barrel too, it was instrumental in winning the Winter war for the Finnish and is the progenitor of the various submachine guns that followed. It is also chambered in my favorite round, the 9mm parabellum.

Both are expensive, but not ridiculously so considering the trouble gone to through the approval process, and extra magazines and drums are fairly inexpensive. I'm waiting to see some reviews of the quality, but I'll probably be getting one of these if the fit and function is good.

Tex
 
though it's got that mandated "extended" barrel too
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That's why they need to make a Rexim... 18" barrel already. I like the idea of semi auto clones, but to be frank the extended barrels just look "doofy."
 
Wish I had a sexier answer, but the 41 wins simply because I know its history a little better and its sillouette it more recognizable to me...
 
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