X-treme 200gr FP 45ACP

[CrankyCraig]

Hi I've purchased some 200gr plated FP in 45 auto from extreme.
I was wondering if anyone loads these?

The only data i could find for a 200gr flat point was from Speer and it calls for 5.6 gr of Win231 @ a COL of 1.200. Is this a good starting point for a 200 Grain plated flat point?


Thanks in advance!!
Craig.

 

[Walkalong]

It is not a good starting point, perhaps a good max. 4.8 is a better starting point.

 

[LiveLife]

+1. You can always reference load data for slightly heavier bullet with the same nose profile for powder work up and I have also used lead load data for plated bullets with good results in 45ACP.

Even jacketed load data for 230 gr FMJ FP bullet calls for start/max of 4.2-5.3 gr - http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol

230 GR. HDY FMJ FP W231/HP-38 COL 1.200" Start 4.2 gr (751 fps) 13,800 CUP - Max 5.3 gr (832 fps) 16,800 CUP

Lead load data for 200 gr SWC and 230 gr RN

200 GR. CAST LSWC W231/HP-38 COL 1.225" Start 4.4 gr (771 fps) 11,000 CUP - Max 5.6 gr (914 fps) 16,900 CUP

230 GR. LRN W231/HP-38 COL 1.200" Start 4.3 gr (699 fps) 12,200 CUP - Max 5.3 gr (834 fps) 16,900 CUP

 

[bbqreloader]

I load em and they work just fine. As always suggested by alot of members on this site, get more than 1 manual so you have multiple data sources.
Also depends on what powder you are using for your 45. Most of the powder companies have some really good data, Hodgdon and ramshot are excellent with multiple grain weights and bullet types. Check those resources for better information.

I have used HS6, BE86, CFE Pistol and Universal under the 200gr with varying results, but most of the data was from Hodgdon. Alliant only lists max data so remember the 10% rule.

 

[CrankyCraig]

It is not a good starting point, perhaps a good max. 4.8 is a better starting point.

Yeah, sounded a little hot to me but I'm still new to all this that's why I posted the question . I much rather be honest an ignorant than a foolish uncle lefty. Thanks!

 

[Load Master]

What gun are you loading for? 1.200" is a minimum. It might not feed properly in your gun. Most 1911's will need something longer. Mine requires 1.250 as a minimum.

 

[johnmcl]

I've used these bullets with great success. My recipe is to load them with 4.0 grains of Bullseye, load to 1.24 OAL, and expect 660 ft/sec.

This is my go to load for low pressure target shooting.

 

[CrankyCraig]

+1. You can always reference load data for slightly heavier bullet with the same nose profile for powder work up and I have also used lead load data for plated bullets with good results in 45ACP.

Even jacketed load data for 230 gr FMJ FP bullet calls for start/max of 4.2-5.3 gr - http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol



Lead load data for 200 gr SWC and 230 gr RN

Very good to know! the load data for 200 GR LSWC in Lee, Hornady & Lyman look much more Sane. Thank you I never thought about using a slightly heavier Bullet with the same profile & working up from that. I really appreciate you taking the time to post all that.

 

[CrankyCraig]

Sig 1911 5" barrel

 

[CrankyCraig]

I've used these bullets with great success. My recipe is to load them with 4.0 grains of Bullseye, load to 1.24 OAL, and expect 660 ft/sec.

This is my go to load for low pressure target shooting.

Good to know Thank You.

 

[CrankyCraig]

What gun are you loading for? 1.200" is a minimum. It might not feed properly in your gun. Most 1911's will need something longer. Mine requires 1.250 as a minimum.

Load master it's a sig1911 with 5" barrel. Last time I loaded 230 gr FMJ round nose I used 1.260 COL.

 

[Sunray]

A plated 200 grain FP is loaded with 200 grain cast bullet data. Like bds says, the 200 grain LSWC data on Hodgdon's site will do nicely.
Been using cast 230 FP's for eons with the max OAL of 1.275". Feeds like hot dam. Never had an issue loading any bullet weight to the Max OAL given in my Lyman book with any cartridge.
"...in Lee..." Lee uses mostly Hodgdon data. They test nothing themselves.

 

[Tcruse]

What gun are you loading for? 1.200" is a minimum. It might not feed properly in your gun. Most 1911's will need something longer. Mine requires 1.250 as a minimum.

You need to make sure that they pass the "plunk" test. The 225g FP Xtreme load and work really as expected. For the 200g FP Xtreme, I had to load them quite short to get them to feed correctly. With the curve of the bullet just barely beyond the case. Not sure that this would apply to all 1911's but that is what it took for my two.