Yet another lubricant...

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Greetings all:

(before you hit reply and start pounding on me please read the full message)

I would like assistance from all of you on a new all weather gun lube I have created.

Let me just state that on paper this should be a "super lubricator" but we all know in reality that is not always the case.

First and foremost!! I'm not looking to start a new career in tribology nor develop this to resell.

Here comes the fun.

My plan is very simple. I will send a sample of this "snake oil" excuse me, oil, to those that are interested. In-turn they will provide me feedback.(To make this even more fun and learning filled I would like the feedback to be posted here on THR.) I will then modify the lube based on this feedback. Round-2, I will send another sample out.

Upon completion I will post the ingredients here on THR so we could all benefit.
We of course will have to come up with a name. How about "THRL"?

To keep this manageable I'd prefer to keep the testers down to about 30 or so.

Thanks!
 
I'd like to try it out with my AR and my 1911 and provide feedback. PM sent.

Out of curiosity what components are you using in the lube? (not asking for formulations or anything secret just a list of ingredients)
 
combination of the following ingredients:

polyester base stock oil
lanolin
refined tungsten disulfide (small amounts)
thickening/thinning agents.
sea foam.
 
Curious to know more about your background, how you started developing this 'super-lube".

More info would be appreciated especially if I'm going to subject my firearm to an unproven lubricant.

Thanks and good luck.
 
this is scary.... Professionally I'm a software engineer.

That being said, I'd be afraid. :)
Actually, I'm a book nerd. Several years ago I was on a special project working for a clinical lab. This purpose of this project was to develop a heat resistive material to be used for specimen transport. Over the next year we experimented with different materials some of which the coefficient of friction was very, very low.

So, just so every is aware. I'm not inventing any one type of material. I'm using what is already available spread across different industries and combining the materials.
 
Ya know, I have been using BreakFree CLP for 25+ years---guns always work, no rust and available almost anywhere---whats your point?
 
BreakFree CLP is a good product. I've used it as well.

My point is very simple and very selfish. Combine technologies from various industries and develop a superior lube. I'm not satisfied easily.

Individuals have different firing habits, different weapons, different climate, ammo etc..
I could have easily developed this lube for myself and be done with it. However that's not my personality type. I would always wonder if it indeed worked as well as I thought.

So this is where my selfishness comes into play. Post it here, get feedback and as payment for such services I will post the final recipe online right here.

Back to your question regarding BF CLP. I believe a similar argument could be made with conventional motor oils vs. synthetic. As with automobiles, modern weapons have tighter tolerances with hyper inflated prices.

To sum the lip flapping above.
It's just another option. I like options.
 
what would really be interesting is to have users post the different types of lubs they use by season.

i.e.
Location: = Augusta, GA
Summer: = 30wt motor oil.
Winter: = 2wt motor oil.
(example only)
 
I use thick oils that will not run off or evaporate. If I lube the frames entire rail. A month later I want to remove that slide and see no dry spots anywhere on that rail.

I also want the lube to flow as a liquid, a thick liquid, but liquid none the less so that it can carry grit away. It should also be able to suspend carbon buildup with in itsself. That carbon can actually be lube ittself if it's suspended and kept wet.

It needs to not have much smell. I clean my guns with CLP after a range day. But will not carry them until that CLP drys and its odor disappears. I can tell when some of my friends a carrying, when I can smell CLP or Hoppes on them.

I mix ATF, STP, and Lucas Red&Tacky grease. I use less grease in the winter. But it deosn't matter. My full thickness mixture runs fine at -10.
 
>>I mix ATF, STP, and Lucas Red&Tacky grease. I use less grease in the winter. But it >>deosn't matter. My full thickness mixture runs fine at -10.

I've heard of the ATF, STP mixture, any particular brand or grade?
 
I also use, and have always used BF CLP and am plenty satisfied with it.

However, I think it's a great to be continually working to improve the status quo. More choices in how to maintain your equipment is never a bad thing.

Cheers, and good luck.
 
Break Free CLP for a cleaner and heavyweight synthetic oil or grease from Amsoil for a longer lasting lubricant.
 
bytemann said:
>>I mix ATF, STP, and Lucas Red&Tacky grease. I use less grease in the winter. But it >>deosn't matter. My full thickness mixture runs fine at -10.

I've heard of the ATF, STP mixture, any particular brand or grade?
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Any kind of ATF. The STP is that little blue pint of STP oil additive. It's really sticky and thick like honey.

Pink Mobile1 grease works as good as the Lucas stuff.
 
.....Combine technologies from various industries and develop a superior lube. I'm not satisfied easily.
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Absent a very sophisticated test lab and skill to use it, and procedure, how will you know you have a 'superior' lube? Superior based on what, and how would you measure it? Seems like all you'll have is anecdotal evidence, in this case not very helpful.

Anyway, FWIW (very little), I use Mobil1 0w-20 and occasionally white Li grease for lube, Mobil1 20w-50 for rust wipedown. I've tried about everything, best results from these in my experience. Adding or using ATF also makes sense.
 
Dallas, TX

Mil-comm TW-25B and MC2500, for all seasons.

No drips or runs, and feels like the actions are on ball bearings.
 
I'll gladly give it a try and post my results. I own 25+ guns. What do you want it tested on? :D
 
Awesome. Uh... Anyone will work just fine. Please PM me your address. I'm calculating the batch based on how many volunteers so I'll post a message once I send it.

Thanks!
 
Bytemann You might want to look at tech-tron aka gm top end lube. as a better cleaner than seafoam. But i also will stay with good oll synthitic BF clp and kroil as a deep cleaner if needed. I will let others try the snake oil.
 
Hardluk1, it's funny you mention techron. I had previously thought about using it but wasn't sure it was up to the task. Have you had any experience using it for general gun cleaning?

Thanks.
 
No but i know what it was designed for and that is to work in behind carbon to lossen it. Kroil does the same thing but does work behind copper and has a longer track record for gun use and and the airo industry. Not a oil for sure but does its job when needed. I coppered up the barrel in a 788 rifle many years back when barnes x first came out. A smithy told me to plug and fill the barrel with kroil and let set for the week. Copper brushed right out and shoots like new again and thats a 37 year old rifle. Thats when i got stopped use other gun cleaning products, kroil and break free only here. Good luck.
 
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