"You'll Shoot your eye out, Kid!" (Daisy Red Ryder thread, just in time for Christmas

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Yes, we all know the DRR is an underpowered, wimpy little "toy" (it's not a toy, actually, it's still a legitimate projectile weapon, albeit one with a rather low velocity), and there are far better alternatives for a child's "first gun", but there's also something indefinable about the humble old DRR.....

Yes, there's no denying it, there's definitely the "A Christmas Story" factor about it, I wonder how many of these humble little carbine repeaters have been sold by just that movie alone?, but there's also the fact that presentation of a DRR from a adult family member to a child is also a kind of rite of passage, as it were, it says to the child "I think you're responsible enough for this now", a kind of "coming of age" thing as it were

Well, to bring my long rambling open to a start, my nephew has been showing signs of interest in the shooting sports, he has asked where I go shooting, we've talked about guns in general, he knows the Eddie Eagle rules *AND* Jeff Cooper's Four Rules, and not just by rote memorization, he understands why they are important

He's also on his Cub Scout shooting team and is one of their better shooters, IIRC, and since the Cubs use BB guns, I figured it may be time for Logan to get his first gun

First things first, I called my sister, expecting to be....shot down (sorry, coudn't resist ;) ), but she had no problem with it, I even asked her point-blank "Is Logan responsible enough to own a BB gun, is he mature enough?"
both answers were yes

So, tonight, I stopped off at KTP, and picked up Logan's first gun, a 70th anniversary Red Ryder Carbine in the infamous cardboard box with bonus tin of ammo, and a 1500 BB bottle of Copperhead BB's for his "stocking stuffer"

I asked for the box to be opened so I could inspect the gun, I was expecting a cheap, plasticky gun with crappy pallet wood, but was actually impressed, the build quality was actually relatively decent for a child's first BB gun, and the wood, albeit rather plain, had decent, if light, grain structure, the only feature that screamed "Cheap!" to me was the cocking lever, a cheap, plastic part

When I got it home, I couldn't resist taking it out and shouldering it myself, light, nimble, points well, the tin of BB's stared at me from inside their bubblewrapped container....

I figure I should at the very least *function test* it, just to make sure it works, so I set out a couple comforters as a backstop, put a small pine board in front of them, put a clay bird in front of the board, and a spray paint cap in front of the clay, dropped a single BB down the loading port, locked the port, and cocked the gun (target was approx. 10 feet away)

Click off the safety, align the sights on the spray paint cap and pull the trigger...

Pop!

the paint cap jumped sideways, and the clay fractured cleanly in two, I walk over to the target, the paint cap had been completely penetrated, the clay cleanly halved, and I found the fired BB lying next to it on the comforter

not too bad for 10 feet away, I decided to do one more function test, put an empty Ocean Spray 20 oz orange juice bottle in front of one of the clay halves, go back to the shooting position and drop in a second BB

This one hit the juice bottle hard, spinning it and ripping the label a bit, but I was then "treated to the sound of the BB ricocheting off the bottle and bouncing off into the corner, the Ocean Spray bottle looked to be too hard for the BB, upon closer inspection, other than a ripped label, the bottle had nary a mark on it...

Yes, I was wearing shooting glasses, didn't want to shoot my eye out, after all

So, after that, I decided to turn my attention to the stock (don't wanna' use up all Logan's ammo before he gets to use it himself....), I tried some Tru-Oil on a small portion of the stock, and liked how it pulled out some character in the wood, so I decided to give the stock a light application of Tru-Oil, I'll do it over the next day or so, to see the results, it's definitely going to improve the looks of the stock and foregrip....

I may even take it back to KTP and have Logan's name engraved on it somewhere, they have a local engraver that has a booth up in the gun department, and he does some nice work, a simple name inscription would generally be about $10 or so, and I think Logan would like that his gun is personalized

Who knows, if he shows responsibility with this gun, there may be a Savage Scout coming his way for his birthday next year, either that or maybe an H&R Versa-Pak.... (if only the VP came with wood furniture....)

Anyone else giving airguns/firearms to the younger set for Christmas?
 
There is a woman that my wife works with who has a son that is enamored with guns. His dad (whom I've never met, and lives a good distance away) is a bit of a gun nut apparently. I guess this boy and his dad go shooting whenever he goes to visit him, which is along the lines of 2 or 3 times a year.

Anyway, I'm going to get "myself" a Red Ryder, and invite him over to plink in the basement. I've made the offer to him, and he is pretty excited about it - and his mom is cool with it. With his mom's approval, that Red Ryder will follow him home. If not, it will be his gun that will live at my house, until he can take it home.

Should be a good time, especially if the dang kid will talk :D. He is pretty shy, but I have a feeling this will open him up a bit!
 
I use my sons DRR to keep my small heard of pygmy goats in line.

If one starts to rub horns on the house I can pop out the back door and let em have it and they'll jump and run like they'd been struck by the hammer of Thor......EXCEPT for my dominant Billy. He's figured out it doesn't really hurt much and will just stand there and take it giving me the stink eye the whole time.
 
I had the wonderful opportunity to spend three days of my 7-year old grand nephew's winter break with him. On Monday, I picked him up at his house, brought him to mine, took him down to the "man cave" where, after I showed him how, and under my complete and careful supervision, he hand-loaded 10 rounds of .30-06 hunting ammo for his dad (my nephew) using once-fired WW brass, 168 gr Barnes TSX bullets, CCI BR2 primers and 48.3 gr IMR 4064 (I miked each round, confirmed the powder weight, seated the primers and measured each case before I showed him how to do these procedures for himselff). He was over the moon at making his dad's x-mas present; he told him as soon as he got home as he was so excited and his dad told him it was the best x-mas present he ever got.

Yesterday, we went to the local airport for lunch, watched a bunch of t-os and landings, schmoozed a few USAF pilots who had flown in and then went shooting: I introduced him to a junior-size bolt action rifle that I borrowed (he shot great!) and today spent the morning at Bass Pro Shop (I taught him about fly fishing and the reason for different size hooks and flies), took him to lunch at Bass (for alligator and calimari) and then we went shooting with an M&P15-22, sized for .22LR.

This kid shoots better than I did when I was a year older; in fact, he shot great, was totally enthused and his mom (my niece) was cool with my teaching him the NRA Basic Rifle class (I'm an instructor) and getting him into bullseye shooting.

I'm not sure who had the better time, my grand-nephew or me, but I turned on a new shooter, had a wonderful time with my grand-nephew, practiced to be a good gran'ther and, in all, am suffused with the x-mas spirit.

Best wishes to you all,

FH
 
Yes, I too have bought my latest Daisy Red Ryder, the 70th Anniversary model, so when my grandkids come over they can shoot a little. I've bought and given away seven or eight of them to my grandkids over the years (we have 25 grandkids now). Wal Mart has the 70th Anniversary model on rollback right now for $25, a good buy. Time spent with children and grandkids can never be reclaimed, so enjoy them while you can.
 
As far as targets go, I think Logan's going to like what I have planned for him, forget tin cans, soda cans, plastic bottles and the like, I have a pile of about 25 clay skeet discs (White Flyer Biodegradeables in blaze orange) recovered from the trap range, these are ones that were launched, were not shot, and somehow, miraculously landed either undamaged or with perhaps a minor chip in the outermost ring

forget the Daisy "Shatterblast" targets, he'll use the real things....
 
So, tonight, I stopped off at KTP, and picked up Logan's first gun, a 70th anniversary Red Ryder Carbine in the infamous cardboard box with bonus tin of ammo, and a 1500 BB bottle of Copperhead BB's for his "stocking stuffer"

Ok... I can read right through this post... :)

Is KTP, Kittery Trading Post? And, is this at all related to Tom Brady? Merry Christmas!
 
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I sometimes wonder if the DRR is what disinterested my brother from shooting. We both got BB guns, but mine, since I was 2 yrs older, was a multipump bb/pellet rifle. It was very accurate within decent ranges, but the DRR was horrible. Often, it would load 2 BBs and it was very difficult to hit a tin can at close distances. He was often frustrated and did not enjoy using it. I was shocked years ago when he finally decided to get a handgun.
 
At this point, the DRR is more of a test of his responsibility, if he treats the gun well and follows all the firearm safety rules, he will be upgraded to a better gun, might be a Benjamin multi-pump, might be a .22, or even a H&R versapak, as he has also expressed interest in shotgun sports

Still, that DRR should be special to him, as it would be his first actual gun (his previous guns were all toy cap guns)

Of course, since I don't own a pellet/BB gun myself, that means I really *should* pick one up so I can go shooting with Logan on our property, my other choice would be to limit myself to Super Colibri or CCI CB Longs in my .22
 
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Well, our traditional Christmas Eve gift openings went off without a hitch, Logan *LOVED* the DRR, and spent a good half hour or so chatting with me about it, asking questions, and making plans to shoot it tomorrow

It also turns out he used the DRR in his Cub Scout shooting camp, and is therefore already familiar with the basics, he was ecstatic that he now owns his own DRR :)

One of his questions was what the false mag tube under the barrel was for, so I used this opportunity to take Dad's Winchester '92 lever action out and show him how the DRR styling was inspired by a real levergun, and that the false tube on the DRR is there to make it look like the mag tube on a levergun

One thing that surprised me a bit was my niece, Sage, seemed a bit afraid of the DRR (she's 6 years old), yet she and Logan *love* playing with their cap guns together, she referred to the DRR as "scary" a couple times, when I asked her why she thought it was scary, the only reason she could articulate was "because it's real"....

Logan, ever the intelligent kid, told Sage that there's nothing to be afraid of as it's just an inanimate object (yes, he used those very words), and a gun sitting on it's own is incapable of doing *anything*, it's the person holding the gun that defines if it's "good" or "bad", he told her that the only things he is going to shoot with it are cans, plastic bottles, cardboard boxes, paper targets and things like that, no animals, and definitely no people, because that's wrong

When he talked about shooting cans and plastic bottles and the like, Sage got this huge grin, and seemed to relax a little

So, I used my "secret voice" after she left the room....

"So, Logan, now that you're a gun owner, you have to set a good example for Sage, it's your "secret mission" to show her that guns and gun owners are not to be scared of, that we're just regular people, show her that you can be a responsible shooter, and that *all* guns must be respected, even BB guns"

He seemed to like that little "secret mission", especially when I told him that Daisy also makes a pink Red Ryder (Sage's favorite color is pink), and that if Sage wants to try his DRR tomorrow, he should let her try it, after all, wouldn't it be fun to have a shooting buddy to go out shooting with, especially if it's your sister?

I then told her how his Mom (my Sis) and I never went shooting together, that she was more into horses and I was more into guns, she wasn't afraid of guns, just had no interest in them at all, and I wished she had been into guns, as I'd love to have my Sis be my shooting buddy....

So, tomorrow, assuming the weather is nice, we'll go out and set up some BB gun targets, I'll grab a few clays, some plastic bottles and aluminum cans and set up a shooting gallery
 
I absolutly love this story. Even more so because it's true.
Logan will be a very good role model for his sister, and I think they'll grow up learning all things good in life together.
You've proven yourself as kind and caring uncle, asking permission and listening to the children carefully. You brought the real spirit of giving a boost that's really needed.

Merry Christmas
 
There is a woman that my wife works with who has a son that is enamored with guns. His dad (whom I've never met, and lives a good distance away) is a bit of a gun nut apparently. I guess this boy and his dad go shooting whenever he goes to visit him, which is along the lines of 2 or 3 times a year.

Anyway, I'm going to get "myself" a Red Ryder, and invite him over to plink in the basement. I've made the offer to him, and he is pretty excited about it - and his mom is cool with it. With his mom's approval, that Red Ryder will follow him home. If not, it will be his gun that will live at my house, until he can take it home.

Should be a good time, especially if the dang kid will talk :D. He is pretty shy, but I have a feeling this will open him up a bit!
That's a great thing to do, my hat's off to you. Good KARMA!
 
These are great stories to get kids into shooting! Always good to see responsible people teaching their ways to another generation :)

And if yall are thinking about the same Tom Brady I am, he is the Quarterback of the New England Patriots. (football)

Merry Christmas all :)
 
Daisy

The Red Ryder is a fine BB gun. Look at The Daisy 499 air rifle for real shooting sport indoors though. It is one hole accurate at 5 meters with target peeps included for around $100. Touted as the most accurate BB gun in the world. Great product, my Son shoots one in air rifle competitions. Amazingly accurate and good trigger too. Not too many FPS but designed to shoot VERY accurately at 5 meters. Takes a special machined Target BB for ultimate accuracy made by Avanti.
 
The DRR is a fine gun. I have mine still from when I was a child... my very first "firearm" :)

The DRR can be considered for serious use, too, though. WWII soldiers were trained with it to learn how to point-shoot without using the rifle sights and we can still use it for that purpose today!

Merry Christmas!
 
I have watched Christmas Story as long as the rest of us, the problem I have is wanting to get my grandaughter into shooting, but my daughter is got a real personal problem with guns in general, I was just thinking about the DRR, and wandering if I should get one, to see if my daughter will soften up ?
 
My first gun was a pump up Crossman. I brought it back out for some target shooting in the back yard a few years ago but I think the air chamber must have sprung a leak because it stopped working. I've though about buying a new air rifle just for shooting in the back yard
 
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