Your End of the World Gun Collection

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you really should have titled this something like "25 guns to own before i die." I dont think you're getting quite the responses you expected. i'll throw a relatively accurate list together off the top of my head.

GI 1911
target 1911
doulbe stack race gun 1911
CCW (probly KAHR) single stack 9mm
compact .38 snub, S&W
S&W .357
S&W .44
S&W .460
Ruger .454, maybe alaskan
about 7 SAA's
Marlin 39 or henry
Single Six
.22 semi auto
.50 semi
.308 bolt target
Belt fed, prefferably automatic AR or similar
Marlin 45/70 guide gun
Lever action Wild west guns Bushwacker
Double bbl, 700 nitro express or 600 overkill

and a peice of artillery for good measure

p.s. I DONT OWN ANY OF THESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:banghead: oh, except the single six, which i probly included because i own it. i also forget a double bbl coach gun. throw that in there too.
 
If it's the end of the world....none of us will be here to fret about it, right?

However, the SHTF tool which I could not live without: Knowledge.
Although I do not advocate such normally: Emergency firearms are easy to build from common items with common hand tools: as demonstrated in the Philippines during WWII and on American streets daily.
We have no cartridges? Flintlocks or matchlocks are not difficult to build from scratch, neither is black powder. No need for pretty nor perfect, they only have to function. James T. Kirk was onto it. I'd use lead instead of diamonds though.
Jack
 
ilbob said:
If the world is ending, why do you need guns at all?

The idea of the thread isn't EOTW.

The OP is musing about twenty-five weapons that he would have were they to be the only ones that he could.

Think of it, then, more like TEOTWAWKI.

I do agree with the posters who have stated that twenty-five is unrealistic, given the idea that weight and mobility become issues when we shouldn't have to worry about carrying more than we can sling across our backs, not to mention the need for food and water.

Really, let's think more in terms of what we would need as a bare minimum, in order to defend ourselves against reasonable odds, and to secure food that doesn't come out of a can or a vacuum-sealed bag.
 
I already own my EOTWAWKI arsenal.
Ruger 10/22 - food & self defense
Mossberg 590 - food and self defense at closer range
Ruger Single Six - food and self defense at close range
Ruger SBH - food and self defense at moderate range
Enfield converted to .308 - food and self defense at long range
 
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Think of it, then, more like TEOTWAWKI.
Okay then, I'll just stick with what I have:
(A) Knowledge
(B) .22LR 9-shot 6" barrel revolver with as much .22LR ammo as is comfortable for me to carry.
(C) .9mm compact pistol with 50 rounds of HP's.
(D) a good knife....not a Rambo knife, a good knife.
Jack
 
MakAttack said:
Personally, I like my 45-70 for true EOTW problems. This caliber was designed for black powder and black powder is FAR easier to manufacture once the supply of smokeless runs out.

Pump my arsenal up to 8.

A 9mm Commander-sized 1911, and a .45-70 rifle. Because, if it IS the EOTW, you know you're going to need a rifle that can kill a Tyrannosaur.
 
A 9mm Commander-sized 1911, and a .45-70 rifle. Because, if it IS the EOTW, you know you're going to need a rifle that can kill a Tyrannosaur.

DANG! I didn't even think of that. Glad I'm prepared for when the Tyrannosaurs get let loose at the end of the world!
 
Title?

What would you like the title to be?

Possibly, "Your Final Rest-Of-Your-Life Gun Collection" or something along those lines?

I'll be happy to change it.
 
JWarren, and 1911Tuner share great real world advice.

Folks asked so I will post here as to what folks put back in my day.

Time line: I was born in '55
JFK shot when I was in the 3rd grade.
LBJ steps up to President.

Now Mentors & Elders were assorted ladies and gents. LEO, Military, Veterans of Conflicts and some worked out of the USA from time to time and had to deal with Communist Checkpoints and other "inconveniences".

Not knowing what all might happen with USA Gov't, or if the Ruskies attacked, and all the Civil Defense Drills, and places to go.
WE did more CD drills than Fire Drills when I was coming up.

Some countries had gun bans, where civilians could not have the same guns, and/or calibers as Police/Military.
This concerned Mentors & Elders.
I mean what if the USA said folks could not have the same guns as our Police and Military??!!


Single shot shotguns, single shot .22 rifles, .22 pistols were hoarded up first, with lots of ammo and put in drums and secured in off site areas.
Reloading components and reloaders for the shotguns.

These would be simple guns, not needing much upkeep, reliable, and would work for getting food. Heck, if matters got that serious, .22 has taken a lot of deer by Poachers for food for instance...

.38spl revolvers, hardware store guns, some S&W, Colts, and again reloading means.
Lever action rifles in 30-30, 1911s, BHPS, Single Action Revolvers...

Mentors started simple with simple guns and ammo, and "stair stepped" thinking to fit various needs.
A small J frame sized .22 revolver, even a hardware one, was easy to conceal and get around with. So were the small Beretta .22 guns.

Reality was, some had/did use these small Berettas, in .22 cal abroad, with pen-knives to do what they did to preserve Freedom.
Nobody, nobody every made fun of these same folks carrying a Colt Woodsman, and later Ruger Standard were seen used.
These folks, ladies and gents would shoot the lit cigarette out , or tell them which eye on a critter to shoot to fell it and they would shoot that eye!

Gun Control Act of '68 was being discussed, and folks had no idea what all might happen, or what to expect.
Folks used experiences from being in War, from being in countries were guns were restricted, Communist Checkpoints and what folks did, over there.


Traveling amongst persons, not all nice, meant blending in, and concealed meant concealed.
Hunting for food, or pest control meant not attracting attention to, so simple guns did not look threatening, along with being legal.
Not that there might have been other "tools in the toolbox" near.

Some of the best lessons come from History.
Some other lessons can be learned from poachers and those that live on the streets and hobos that ride rails.

Tactical is the street person wearing clothing to protect him/herself from harm, that lesson blows from being kicked, hit and hassled.
All survival tools are on person, and concealed in them clothes too.

Note:
Barter comes into play if matters get serious.
.22 ammo, wicks, for oil/kerosene lamps and Zippo lighters. Flints, for Zippos, matches, mag fire starters, candles and candlemaking components...pocket size sharpening stones, simple small knives (slip-joints and fixed)...
You get the idea...
 
MDeviney said:
Forgive me all. While the title is misleading, I expected people to read my original post.

Forgive me for being part of the thread derailment. Even limiting things to a 25 gun collection would be a hard drawn out process requiring years, cost billions of dollars, and result in thousands of lives lost.
 
I reread the post - now I see what you're saying.
I'd still keep the same basic idea I started with but I'd add a No4 Enfield.
It wouldn't really be practical for me but I want one. Probably add a Browning Buckmark too because it would be a lot of fun to shoot and still useful.
While we're at it, and Uzi carbine with all the fixin's.
Might as well dream big.
 
I don't think the people were way off on the posts.

The original post talked about ordering your guns in such a way as the absolutely most important ones are at top of the list.

Much of the "deviation" has been in discussing which guns SHOULD BE at the top of the list.

I simply can't put a list of 25 guns as "must haves."
 
my end of the world gun..... crossbow.... reusable ammo silent so zombies wont here me if i shoot it, nuff said
 
Suppressed 10/22
Suppressed Walther P22
Suppressed Rem 700 PSS 308 Bolt action
HKMP5SD
AK47
M16

Why all the suppressors. I don't wanna hurt my lil ears and let the zombies know where I'm at.
 
I guess I didn't get your initial intention either, but my top 3/4 still stands. And I really could care less what the others are as far as "needing" them. they could be anything I think looks "cool" as long as I have the ones that I "need".
 
am i the only one that finds it just a little funny that people just post what they think after only reading the title? or am i a little funny for actually reading the first post?
 
I am not a religious guy but at the end of the world I would have to say Faith, Family and Friends would be at the top of my list!

Along with a loaded out A-10 for peace of mind.
 
well, i guess me and dad must jump on board...

reread your long post sm.

real world. what we have now is all we need firearm wise. thats what we would use to get what we need. i have no issue with scavaging for the benifits of me and mine.
what i would want for SHTF.
AMMO
gasoline (for use and barter)
drugs (antiboitics, pain relivers, ext) for use and barter
alcohol and pot, if i could get my hands on it, for barter only.
livestock and horses for travel
several anatolian shepards and a couple of Black Russian Terroirs that are shutzhund trained.

but mostly i would want a home away from cities and such that was defensiable and useful.
 
am i the only one that finds it just a little funny that people just post what they think after only reading the title? or am i a little funny for actually reading the first post?

Reality is what I posted.

Granted my experiences are not as some around here, but mine are mine and I own them.

Katrina hit.
Folks of like kind, had ammo, guns, medical supplies and everything else, and even some of the back-up supplies got hit, lost.
Now I am real damn familiar with some folks that took a big chance, and took single shot shotguns, singles shot .22 rifles , .38spl revolvers diabetes kits and meds, and other really needed items into where these folks were.
Criminals on one side, FEMA other there and weaving the needle to not get pegged by Cops.

Nothing "good enough" or 'tactical enough" for many today , still I assure you, the reciepents were damn happy to have these simple firearms that were put back for such a situation.

Let us go back in time...
Before cell phones, before 911.

Tornado comes through and it looks like a lawnmower just cut a wide swath.
Guns?
Yeah they had guns, but one fella did not find his safe until 3 wks later over in a clump of trees in another pasture!

Big City has its own problems, these folks are on their own.
They had guns, ammo, stores , and supplies, still these two are gone, or cannot be accessed.

Again, others run down, with single shot shotguns, .22 rifles, .38spl and other needes like lanterns, blankets and food.

Evil is looking for easy prey...
Evil will cheat, and play dirty.

A firebomb is tossed to catch a structure on fire to run folks off, the firebomb never makes it to the structure.
A simple single shot shotgun shoots this moving target, and fells it before it can reach its destination.
Night time, very little light, no beads on that shotgun, but the person using it, is a shotgunner, not some one that owns a shotgun.

Another barrage of gunfire and a younger male with a single shot 20 ga has the best cover and shot to stop evil.
He runs that single shot like a repeater, sending slugs into that car, and evil leaves.

I know, I made the run during Katrina, I was the young man shooting firebombs, and I was the young man shooting slugs .

Not funny to me at all!
Screw the rules, rules are for bending them that will and breaking those that need breaking.

Before all the gun games and The Great Equipment race, we did set ups and lessons using what folks actually had.

Serious situations hit, like escaped convicts, or natural disasters and one is wise to learn from the past.
Neighbors, with various skill sets, and working as team.
Firearm redundancy on platform and ammo capability.

Here Model 94 in 30-30 was the most used rifle, it was not /is not uncommon to find a household with six of these.
Anyone in the family can run this rifle, so can neighbors.
Same applies other guns, like Model 10s, and some families have a dozen set back, just in case matters go south.
12 ga bone stock pump guns, Model 70 in '06...

ARs are plain vanilla and bone stock, simple and a crap load of ammo set back.
Instead of tricking out 1, folks get 2 guns done for the same monies, or near about.

One fella bought 2, plain GI SA 1911s. These run out of the box, and tested reliable.
He paid $438 each for these.
His next investments were another 24 , 7 round , closed base USGI/Colt style mags.
Ammo was more hardball, both factory loads and components.

This makes 12 bone stock 1911s for this fella and his family.

Redundancy is good, and proven.



How raised, what you do
 
I'm sorry, i read the origional thread to say "Here is a list of guns that are all i need for life. Just 25, not 100+ guns like some people own. These 25 are enough gun to keep me happy for life. SOME on the list would be useful for SHTF. They are in order of want/need/usefulness"

As in this isn't supposed to be yet another thread about the end of the world. Just, if you could only have 25, would that be enough to keep you happy.

My post wasnt to question or insult you.

MDeViney(the OP)
I originally came up with the list with the idea of me marrying some broad that made 25 my limit, and me trying to figure out how to have all of the bases covered.

MDeViney(the OP)
Forgive me all. While the title is misleading, I expected people to read my original post.

and then i said
people just post what they think after only reading the title



by the way, i also realised my list is actually flawed, i forgot to put them in a good order.
 
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