Your favorite "saturday night special?" No gun hate please.

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I see a lot of cheap guns go through my CCW classes. Of them, most of them have malfunctioned badly, or were just plain hard to shoot. A few of them broke during the 100 round COF. Of the American cheap guns the only one that I haven't seen fall apart or malfunction is the Hi-point, though it is a clunky beast to shoot. It seems reliable. The worst was an RG revolver. What a piece of junk. I've yet to have a Jennings or a Bryco make it through a class with out significant problems.

I teach lots of poor people, students, etc. (I like it, and have a philosophy of arming people first, getting paid second). So I probably see more cheap guns that most.

When I have somebody on a tight budget looking for a carry gun, I steer them towards Eastern Block surplus, and Makarovs in particular. Comparing a $120 Mak to an $120 American gun, the Mak is superior in just about every way.
 
My cheapest two guns are a EAA windicator that I bought for $130 that is a decent gun.
HA! I thought I was the only one here with a Windicator.

I bought mine used last year from a co-worker for $100. He only ever put 20 rounds through the gun himself. I've put probably in excess of 2000 rounds (maybe more than that!) through the gun and it still shoots just fine and has an excellent trigger. I also like the 6-shot capacity in a snub-nose, even though finding good holsters for it are a PITA (stuck with a couple UMs for now). It was my first CCW gun and I still occasionally carry it, as it has never failed me and goes BANG every time I fire it.

Even my boss, an LEO and avid firearms enthusiast, has admitted that even though it's inexpensive enough to be considered a "Saturday Night Special" or "throw-away gun", the Windicator is a well-built, reliable gun with a nice trigger, and that EAA does make some great pieces for not a lot of money. :)

The second gun I've purchased so far, a Bersa MiniFireStorm in .45 ACP, as also been toted as a "Saturday Night Special" by my co-workers due to the fact that I only paid $299 NIB for it. I still kinda kicked myself that I turned down an offer from one of those co-workers for a Browning Hi-Power Classic in .40 S&W with two spare mags and holster for $375, but the looks of the Classic didn't appeal to me as much as the Practical, and after researching, handling, and reading reviews on the Bersa (both their .380 ACP and their .45 ACP), the Bersa fit my needs better (more compact and DA/SA vs. SA, as I didn't quite feel confident with a "cocked and locked" pistol for CCW. That view has changed - I'm ready for a Commander 1911). The Bersa, after about 300 rounds so far, as shot everything I've fed it, from the cheap MagTech and UMC ball ammo to the 165-gr. Federal HydraShok I carry as my self-defense round.

As for Jennings, I've tried one and had a heck of a time racking the slide and getting the first round completely into battery. Also, the trigger pull was so much that I thought I would break my hand before the sear would release.

As for Hi-Points, I've fired and handled a couple, but wouldn't be interested in buying. As someone said, the overbearingly heavy, bulky slide is a turn-off, and I found that HPs don't seem to manually cycle into the chamber freely (racking the slide manually to chamber a round). I did fire a 9mm at the range once, and suprisingly it feeded ball ammo without a hiccup, as well as put a relatively tight group from 10 yards using a two-hand hold. :)

I'd say there are plenty of inexpensive, reliable guns out there for those who can't plop down the better part of $1000 for a higher-name pistol. It's just a matter of research, maybe some test firing (if available), and finding what meets your interests at the price you can afford.

I've spent a total so far of $400 (not including taxes and transfer fees/background checks) for two handguns thus far, and I'd trust my life to either of them. :D

-38SnubFan
 
I bought a Bryco .380 a while back for $80. After shooting one box of ammo, the frame cracked. So pot metal autos are not on my hit parade. I also had a Davis .38 derringer that made bullets tumble end over end. With the low prices of Makarovs, FEGs, CZ 52s, and spanish autos you can now afford quality stuff for $100-$150 and pass it down to future generations.

H&R model 999 - 9 shot break open .22 ..... great gun
Taurus .22 autos .... lots of fun
 
Tarus Model 85 Stainless, 90 vintage. Working gun, cheap at the time for $150, and has not shot itself loose....yet. I had not money at the time, and I wanted a SMith snub so badly, but could not afford the $350 price tag. I liked the way the Taurs 85 had a heavier ejector rod shroud and the wood grips. All these years later, it still works. I d o not carry it as a defensive sidearm. I use it at the range, and I just like to remember the years when I was gun poor...
 
some of this stuff just aint saturday night specials

happy with my Kel-tec P 32 sns

The Kel Tec P 32 is definitely not a saturday night special. Neither are Makarovs, Bersas, or CZ-52s.

I think I need to clarify what this term means because I think a lot of guys on here either are not old enough to remember when that term was coined or have forgotten. The term ended up mostly only applying to small handguns, but it meant price price price (the dubious quality part just kind of came along for the ride sometimes). For oh, I'd say 30 years, in order to be a sns, the gun ABSOLUTELY had to be under $100. The term still is all about price. Even with the insane inflation being inflicted upon us in the last 4 some odd years, still, in order to be a sns, the benchmark still hovers around $100 bucks. Makarovs, at $160+ new, coupled with the super toughness, quality, and accuracy, disqualify it big time. CZ 52s would almost qualify, if used, if it weren't for that darn excessive mil spec quality. Military issue pistols never fit the term anyway.

I think was has massively skewed the view of what qualifies, is the fact that thanks to lawsuits, company reorganizations (like Bryco, Lorcin, and Davis having to reorganize, Intratec being gone), most dealers have flat out gotten out of the super affordable gun business. I've got dealers everywhere around here, and finding something under $200 at all is a challenge. The only true sns that is sold new around here is Hi Points, and I only know two places to find them. One pawnshop wants $150 for a Hi Point 9mm if you can believe it. Just a few years ago, if you didn't even have $100 bucks, you had plenty to choose from. Thank God for the net: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=34019425
 
I too bought a stainless Taurus 85 years ago. It always did fine by me. The ex absconded with it in the divorce and probably sold it long ago.

As far as inexpensive handguns, there was a time when I bought every H&R 999 break action .22 I came across. Usually paid between $79. to $99 for them. Now they've become a lot more scarce but still a decent .22 revolver.

Regards,
Rabbit.
 
I have a Taurus 85 that I bobbed the hammer on and 75% of the time you will find it stuck in the front of my pants with a Barami HipGrip.

I have shot it enough to know it is 100% reliable and may get my fat out of the fire.
 
Another Vote For the Mak

Picked up my Bulgie Mak today - and after 45 min cleaning all the grease off it, it look pretty solid for an under $ 200 shooter. Bulgarian armoury I think.

Didn't even come in a box with instructions - came in a cheapo plastic bag. All class :D

Still, if it is as reliable and accurate as everyone makes it out to be, it will likely be my favorite "summer" gun (fits nicely in my shorts front right pocket).

Can't wait to try it out this Sat.
 
The lowest priced gun I will buy is probably a Star BM 9mm. The cheapest made in terms of quality that I would ever consider buying is a Glock. :neener:
 
NAA Mini-Revolver

Not really a "Saturday Night Special", because IMO they are very high quality. However, it IS the size of a Saturday Night Special, and in the price range.


I personally am a big fan of the NAA products, low price, yet very good quality. I only wish they offered the NAA revolvers in bigger chamberings than .22 Magnum....perhaps a .32 Magnum scaled up a big would be perfect....
 
I posted on this earlier and said I was looking for a cheaper gun than my Makarov.

Well I found one.

I've got a C9, Hi-Point. :D

150 rounds down, and it's still working. Might not the next time, but I like this silly thing.
 
I can not remember the name of them, I think Mod #95 (?) They are from Romania ( I think) little PPK knock-offs in .380. I bought a pair for about $200 maybe a bit more. Horrid DA but wonderful SA. Fun, accurate, gave one to my wife. My kids like to shoot 'em. They are great. They came from SOG a year or two ago.
 
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{while running for cover and ducking} yeah, I have one of those SNS's..

A Rohm/RG 2" .38Spl snubby. Model RG-38 IIRC. Shoots fair-to-middlin', doesn't spit lead sideways, and puts the lead in the general area where I point it...In contrast to the RG .22LR revolver I USED to own. That one could just barely keep lead in the same area code as pointed.
 
I have a LLAMA .380 that I picked up 40 years ago for what I believe was around $50.
Carried the thing on and off and it never failed me, ever. It still looks like crap.
And I still have it. Somebody can put it in my coffin. My kids can have everything else.

AFS
 
Used to be that you could get a used Ruger 6-series for about $150- still my favorite revolvers. May be going for more than that now.
 
Your favorite "Saturday night special"

I have a "Heritage" S/A Revolver in .22 Mag. that I paid $59.00 new about 10 Years ago. After shooting several Thousand Rounds through it, it is still ticking.
 
Way back in the mid '80s, when you could still buy handguns from WalMart, I bought an FIE "Buffalo Scout" .22lr that came with a .22 mag cylinder. The thing has a hair trigger but it has been a fun gun to shoot. I know a gun dealer that claims he can make some adjustments to a Jennings 9mm that will make it shoot and eject everytime.
 
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