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The Unorganized Militia is called up (A What If)
OR – Is the Militia Dead/Are you ready for Red Dawn II?/ Bug Out Bag – 999
Terrorists have again struck within the USA, coming over the north and south borders and the east, south-east and west coast lines and have struck over 100 soft targets, killing over 3000+ innocent citizens. The majority of our armed forces are deployed in the middle-east and far east, riots are ensuing in the inner cities and the big city police are “hunkered†down ala LA ’92. Terror alert is off the scale, they’re here, they’re acting, people are dying, stock market’s crashing, cats living with dogs… a little carried away there, sorry, but you get the drift…
In a moment of righteous soul searching, the President, besides enacting Martial Law, decided to do something really radical and augment the “Organized Militiaâ€, the National Guard, with the orphaned little brother of USC 10… you and me and our God given right to lay down our life while protecting our nation from attack…Some Governors approve and do, others don’t and won’t… Command and Control will be Dept of Homeland Security and FEMA (gulp). Interaction with local police agencies a given.
Assuming you aren’t in the path of the rioting at the moment…
Where are you, what do you have/take, where do you go to get what you need?
Assume that you’ll report to a local NG Armory in your town, but will be deployed away from home and hearth for 30 days minimum at a time, duration plus 6 months worst case.
What do you have, good to go? What are you lacking?
I assume we all have a weapon or two and some ammunition, but is that enough?
Today it’s January something, 2004… wintertime. Wintertime in Las Vegas is different than summertime here. But it’s not like wintertime in Boston MA or summer in FLA.
Never having done this (What if scenario for public consumption and critique) I’ll suggest some limited constraints/thoughts that the age limit of the Militia will be 50-ish, men and women are both allowed to serve and you’ve still got to worry about your family back home while you’re deployed. Not talking combat or anything, just dealing with the moment of deployment, equipment you’re lacking and skills you could offer…
I guess I’ll go first… being the idiot to ask this…
Guns to take… AR15 and Beretta 92 or Colt 1911A1 … got ‘em.
Ammunition… 10 magazines for long gun, 5 for handgun… got ‘em.
Uniform/BDU’s… not mandatory, but you need something to wear… old khakis used for hunting and parka… got ‘em. Socks and Boots, check. Web gear… got it.
Sleeping/Camping gear… whatever you can carry… tent half and bag… check. Need batteries for flashlights, fuel and mantles for the Coleman lantern (Hey, its camping gear)
Food and water… for the first 30 days you’ve got to plan on providing your own till the pipeline gets set up… hmmmmm… Problem here. Canteens I got, MRE’s I need
Older rucksack used in Boy Scout Leader days… got it.
Communication… what have you got that’ll work? Cell phone or old Motorola walkie talkies (again, old hunting equipment) got em. Need batteries
First Aid (is there a doctor in the house?) Boy Scout issue kit, ready to go.
Boy Scout Manual… got it.
Misc… Knife or two, cooking and mess gear
What did I forget? What will I need to discard?
Basically sounds like an extended deer hunting trip to me with a lot more ammo, food and water than I take normally.
How in the heck am I gonna carry all that? Throw it in the truck and boogie down to the NG Armory, simple.
OR -Do I stay here at home and wait for the BG’s to make the scene in Las Vegas and ignore the order to actually, you know, do the minuteman thing at Concord and be sent elsewhere? No dishonor in that, right? Older folks need an armed neighborhood watch to keep local bad boyz in check.
Because you know that when you do show up, you’re probably gonna be the ones used to implement Martial Law, right? Can you say, “Show me your papers, please?â€
What do I have to offer the local Nat Guard commander (assuming they’re not deployed to the mid-east) in way of actual knowledge/expertise that he/she can use to defend a position since there is no way I’m set up for an offensive anything with my lack of training.
An architect draws buildings and organizes construction projects and engineering to the point where he hands it over to the real builders, then does what he can to keep the project rolling and answer questions in the field… in short, I know buildings and construction. So that’d make me, what, useless?
But the real question is, are you prepared? Equipment and mindset?
We all know that’ll never happen as described. But, What If? (I know, I know, What If Superman was a Nazi?)
I’m sure John Milius could make a great Red Dawn II movie or Travis McGee or J Ross could write a novel and a half or a series at least, didn’t William Johnstone do just that?
I’m sure that most here have the camping gear, old uniforms, hunting equipment, etc to help out if ever called upon however unlikely that would be. A lot have military experience to draw from (I want to hang with you guys)
What does your Walter Mitty have to say? Whereas this COULD turn out to be a story-line ala frugal squirrel, that’s not what I’m looking for. Simply, are you prepared or what do you need to be a super Boy Scout if your country needs you?
Or is the militia really dead and do you acknowledge that fact?
If you’re brave enough (or is it foolish?) to respond, keep it light and humor me, but there is a touch of historical (or hysterical) reality that can be worthy of discussion, such as:
Readiness and Willingness to Respond (Under someone’s command you may or may not respect)
Training Experience (Camping, hunting, shooting, policing)
Military Experience (Planning, Operations, Materials, Intelligence)
Communication Experience (Depending on targets chosen by terror types could be interesting)
Medical Experience (Including Bio)
Organizational Experience (Dealing with real military types AND scared/panicked citizens)
Occupational Experience (Does your daily job/training/education have value in this situation and help or hinder?)
Home Situation Experience (what happens to your family and home while you’re away?)
And even if you don’t answer, is this something you’ve thought about too, or am I the only Walter Mitty here?
OR – Is the Militia Dead/Are you ready for Red Dawn II?/ Bug Out Bag – 999
Terrorists have again struck within the USA, coming over the north and south borders and the east, south-east and west coast lines and have struck over 100 soft targets, killing over 3000+ innocent citizens. The majority of our armed forces are deployed in the middle-east and far east, riots are ensuing in the inner cities and the big city police are “hunkered†down ala LA ’92. Terror alert is off the scale, they’re here, they’re acting, people are dying, stock market’s crashing, cats living with dogs… a little carried away there, sorry, but you get the drift…
In a moment of righteous soul searching, the President, besides enacting Martial Law, decided to do something really radical and augment the “Organized Militiaâ€, the National Guard, with the orphaned little brother of USC 10… you and me and our God given right to lay down our life while protecting our nation from attack…Some Governors approve and do, others don’t and won’t… Command and Control will be Dept of Homeland Security and FEMA (gulp). Interaction with local police agencies a given.
Assuming you aren’t in the path of the rioting at the moment…
Where are you, what do you have/take, where do you go to get what you need?
Assume that you’ll report to a local NG Armory in your town, but will be deployed away from home and hearth for 30 days minimum at a time, duration plus 6 months worst case.
What do you have, good to go? What are you lacking?
I assume we all have a weapon or two and some ammunition, but is that enough?
Today it’s January something, 2004… wintertime. Wintertime in Las Vegas is different than summertime here. But it’s not like wintertime in Boston MA or summer in FLA.
Never having done this (What if scenario for public consumption and critique) I’ll suggest some limited constraints/thoughts that the age limit of the Militia will be 50-ish, men and women are both allowed to serve and you’ve still got to worry about your family back home while you’re deployed. Not talking combat or anything, just dealing with the moment of deployment, equipment you’re lacking and skills you could offer…
I guess I’ll go first… being the idiot to ask this…
Guns to take… AR15 and Beretta 92 or Colt 1911A1 … got ‘em.
Ammunition… 10 magazines for long gun, 5 for handgun… got ‘em.
Uniform/BDU’s… not mandatory, but you need something to wear… old khakis used for hunting and parka… got ‘em. Socks and Boots, check. Web gear… got it.
Sleeping/Camping gear… whatever you can carry… tent half and bag… check. Need batteries for flashlights, fuel and mantles for the Coleman lantern (Hey, its camping gear)
Food and water… for the first 30 days you’ve got to plan on providing your own till the pipeline gets set up… hmmmmm… Problem here. Canteens I got, MRE’s I need
Older rucksack used in Boy Scout Leader days… got it.
Communication… what have you got that’ll work? Cell phone or old Motorola walkie talkies (again, old hunting equipment) got em. Need batteries
First Aid (is there a doctor in the house?) Boy Scout issue kit, ready to go.
Boy Scout Manual… got it.
Misc… Knife or two, cooking and mess gear
What did I forget? What will I need to discard?
Basically sounds like an extended deer hunting trip to me with a lot more ammo, food and water than I take normally.
How in the heck am I gonna carry all that? Throw it in the truck and boogie down to the NG Armory, simple.
OR -Do I stay here at home and wait for the BG’s to make the scene in Las Vegas and ignore the order to actually, you know, do the minuteman thing at Concord and be sent elsewhere? No dishonor in that, right? Older folks need an armed neighborhood watch to keep local bad boyz in check.
Because you know that when you do show up, you’re probably gonna be the ones used to implement Martial Law, right? Can you say, “Show me your papers, please?â€
What do I have to offer the local Nat Guard commander (assuming they’re not deployed to the mid-east) in way of actual knowledge/expertise that he/she can use to defend a position since there is no way I’m set up for an offensive anything with my lack of training.
An architect draws buildings and organizes construction projects and engineering to the point where he hands it over to the real builders, then does what he can to keep the project rolling and answer questions in the field… in short, I know buildings and construction. So that’d make me, what, useless?
But the real question is, are you prepared? Equipment and mindset?
We all know that’ll never happen as described. But, What If? (I know, I know, What If Superman was a Nazi?)
I’m sure John Milius could make a great Red Dawn II movie or Travis McGee or J Ross could write a novel and a half or a series at least, didn’t William Johnstone do just that?
I’m sure that most here have the camping gear, old uniforms, hunting equipment, etc to help out if ever called upon however unlikely that would be. A lot have military experience to draw from (I want to hang with you guys)
What does your Walter Mitty have to say? Whereas this COULD turn out to be a story-line ala frugal squirrel, that’s not what I’m looking for. Simply, are you prepared or what do you need to be a super Boy Scout if your country needs you?
Or is the militia really dead and do you acknowledge that fact?
If you’re brave enough (or is it foolish?) to respond, keep it light and humor me, but there is a touch of historical (or hysterical) reality that can be worthy of discussion, such as:
Readiness and Willingness to Respond (Under someone’s command you may or may not respect)
Training Experience (Camping, hunting, shooting, policing)
Military Experience (Planning, Operations, Materials, Intelligence)
Communication Experience (Depending on targets chosen by terror types could be interesting)
Medical Experience (Including Bio)
Organizational Experience (Dealing with real military types AND scared/panicked citizens)
Occupational Experience (Does your daily job/training/education have value in this situation and help or hinder?)
Home Situation Experience (what happens to your family and home while you’re away?)
And even if you don’t answer, is this something you’ve thought about too, or am I the only Walter Mitty here?
