Your 'Rodney Dangerfield' guns.

Mini thirty scatter gun. It's an obsession to find exactly why it won't shoot like one of the Garands. I want to see the problem. No hear say. I just can't put it away. Sound track from caddy shack may be the answer.
My 12ga. Winchester 1400, like Joan Jett’s song, it’s got a “Bad Reputation”.

I must be unusually lucky, because mine’s never skipped a beat.

There, I just jinxed myself.
Great idea for a thread!

My Sig P290 gets no respect ever since the P365 came out despite being reliable and amazingly accurate for a small auto with a 2.9” BBL.


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My Dad had one of those Win 1400s. He used it for years and I don't know who ended up with it when he died. I had a Rem 1100 and we always had debates on Rem v Win but neither of us had problem with our respective shotguns.
Great idea for a thread!

My Sig P290 gets no respect ever since the P365 came out despite being reliable and amazingly accurate for a small auto with a 2.9” BBL.
I had two P290RS (one 380 and one 9mm) and they got no respect even from me. They went to a Forever Home.

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They both had a strange trigger resonance that was just plain painful. Those two and my P225 are the only Sigs I let go and never replaced.
What are your 'Rodney Dangerfield' guns, the ones that get no respect. We likely all have a few but we all likely also love them even if they get nothing but ridicule.

Often it seems like most of the things I like fall into that category. One such example is my Walther 'First Edition' #143 of 2000 PK380. True, the only thing unique about #143 of 2000 is the most likely silk screen "First Edition" billboard on the slide and true, everyone mocks the keyhole safety and the tool needed for takedown and the recoil spring guide rod that is a nightmare on reassembly and the paddle mag release and the little pointy ends on each side of the grip and being 8mm Kurz rather than a REAL 9mm and only 8 + 1 rounds and the list goes on.

But I like it. True, I did order a captive spring recoil/guide rod from Galloway but I never had the hard time reassembling the pistol that lots of folk complained about online. And true, I did round off those sharp pointy things one the grip. But it is relatively small, light, easy to rack, maybe the easiest magazines to thumb load I've encountered and pretty accurate. And remember, this was back in 2009 and at that time there just weren't many enjoyable 380 to shoot or rack that had magazines that were easy to load.

Granted the safety did work backwards and since there was no external slide lock you have to take the magazine out to release the slide from lock back and true, there is no decocker so you need to put the gun on safe and pull the trigger often with a live round in the chamber to lower the hammer. But at least there was a safety that did block the hammer from hitting the firing pin; if that is, you switched it to safe mode. But that was also true on my 80 series Berettas and all the earlier Berettas.

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So what are your 'Rodney Dangerfield' guns?
I've had 2 different PK380's. Sold the first one when I was hard up for money, and when I got back into buying them, picked up a second one. They just fit my hand really well. I also was messing around one day and was able to shoot a balloon with mine at 100 yards. I'd say it was pretty accurate.

In answer to your question..

Any of my .40 caliber pistols. The .40 doesn't get the respect it deserves. Or my Taurus Raging Bull. .454 Casull. It is always compared to Ruger or S&W, but it is a quality gun that looks badass to me and hits tennis ball sized groups at 100 yards.
Mossberg 1000 semi-auto shotgun (made by Howa of Japan). Complaints about the Model 1000 are all over the Web.

Gift from my son with a warning to replace the piston shock absorbrer before using it. He had traded an amplifier he didnt need for the shotgun he didn't need to benefit a relative who needed an amplifier, then he researched the shotgun on the Web. The piston shock absorber was made of a rubber that could be melted by common gun cleaning solvents.

A short stroke tappet system like the M1 Carbine (which Howa made for the Japanese Self Defense Force post WWII), the piston was supposed to be run dry, no lubes abound the piston (and shock absorber) area. No body seemed to get the message. Lucky for me the melted tar-like goo un-shock absorber residue was readily dissolved by Hoppes No. 9.

I got a solvent resistent replacement shock absorber for the Howa 1000 (Mossberg 1000, Smith & Wesson 1000) shotgun from Numrich Arms.. (You can make Model 1000 piston shock absorbers from hose intended to carry aggressive solvent chemicals.) Once my M1000 had a proper shock absorber it ran softly and patterned great with birdshot and buckshot with its Skeet II choke tube (not so well with foster rifled slugs).
Other guns often criticized in the Web but I had:

Marlin 55 bolt action shotgun
RG10 .22 short revolver
Grendel P10 .380 pistol

Gifted to son who has fond memories shooting them:
Smith and Wesson 916A 12 ga pump action (Noble Model 66 design)
Mossberg Bullpup 500 with telescopic sight

Kept by me:
Garcia Bronco skeletonized .22 single shot
Jennings J22 .22 pocket pistol
Raven .25 pistol
ArmaLite AR-7 Explorer

The Armalite AR-7 rifle with Henry 8-shot magazines and CCI Mini-Mag 40gr CPRN is pretty reliable semi-auto and with CCI Quiet .22 Presegmented Hollowpoint vewy quiet and straight-pull bolt action, Unlike my Ruger MkII pistol and Nylon 66, Quiet-22 (CB Long Rifle) won;'t even try to move the AR-7 bolt.
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So, the PK380 got really upset about my OP post it seems. I decided to let it go WalkAbout and so got it out, did a field strip, clean and lube and even put the original recoil spring and guide rod back in. And promptly launched the guide rod to Infinity & Beyond. Come on, it's steel, nearly three inches long and it simply vanished. How can that even be possible.

Then my problem was I had put the Galloway Precision captive Spring & Guide Rod away in a safe place. Went through all the pieces parts in the Parts bin but it too was nowhere to be found. So I did find the original clam shell plastic carrier the PK380 came in and ...

... there was the Galloway Captive Guide Rod.

It's embarrassing when even inanimate objects mock you.

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I have a 16ga H&R Model 349 Gamester that a previous owner butchered the stock. I got the shotgun for free and figured at some point I'd turn it in at a gun buyback and use the Walmart gift card for ammo. But then Walmart stopped selling handgun ammo, so the shotgun has been just sitting in the back of the safe for over a decade. Numrich has replacement stocks for under $50. So, the damn thing is going to get a new stock in the near future.

The gun is worth maybe $50 due to the condition. But it was free and it mechanically is in good condition. So, with a new used stock, it'll go to the range and bust some clays.

I'm a sucker for 16ga bolt action shotguns. I have a Mossberg too. There's something fascinating about post-WWII working-class shotguns. Not everyone after the war had money to blow on Remingtons, Winchester, and Brownings. Most were working stiffs without a high school diploma, working blue-collar jobs, trying to raise a family on that paycheck and with whatever veterans benefits they received, if they received any to begin with.

So, guns like this H&R were marketed to them. Guns that were never going to be collector items or heirloom quality pieces. These were low-cost consumer grade guns meant to be used and eventually thrown away after they rusted away in a shed or garage after decades of neglect.
For me, it has to be this H&R 12 ga.
Purchased used in the early 80’s as an inexpensive “boat gun”, at the time these were both cheap, and common as brown dirt.
The barrel was shortened to 20” to make it handier, also swivel studs and recoil pad were added.
For many years it had no sights, but were eventually added for use with rifled chamber adapters in .22, 9mm, .38, and .45 ACP.
Front sight was a leftover from an old Contender, rear consists of a modified upside-down Weaver scope ring that has been dovetailed to use a 10/22 flip-up sight with a ghost ring blade.
This set-up is surprisingly accurate, cheap to feed, and wreaks havoc on lake and yard pests.
Over the years, untold snakes, snapping turtles, ‘possums, skunks,
armadillos, and even a raccoon or two have faced the Red Dot-burning wrath of “Belching Bertha”. 694A6099-4C08-460D-BE04-95C90B751378.jpeg