Yugo Sks and options.

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This is "The High Road" so I'm not going to cast doubts upon any of your statements.
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LOL that's the only thing you have done. I didn't try to change the Yugo because I didn't want it to take detachables even if they did work. And I know what I've heard. You don't know what I've heard. And I've seen hundreds of USA brand mags and never once did I see one that needed work before it would function.

You seem to be an expert on all of this but you are clearly wrong about a lot of things. But I wouldn't cast doubt on any of the things you say. You do a fine job of that yourself. And BTW I make my living with words. Maybe the problem is that you can't read.

Mostly you're just a troll though. So goodbye troll. I feel sorry for anyone that takes advice from you.
 
It appears it is a Sino-Soviet model Norinco which is what the stuff about it having the Russian "brand" is about. The early Chinese (Norinco) models were made under supervision of the Russians and are considered to be better quality because they had the trained Russians there instead of the peasant Chinese they used in the factories being there alone. That and the model in question is more rare (and rare costs more) and the one on that page appears to be in good shape. Add that to the fact that prices vary around the country and you end up with a $400 Norinco. Even the Type 56 Norincos are $300-$350 in a lot of places and those are heavily used rifles (used by Americans after being taken out of their storage crates a long time ago). I haven't been able to find a Norinco fresh out of the crate for a very long time in fact. I did find a Yugo still packed in cosmoline for $250 about 18 months ago. I bought one of those. But those are long gone too. That $400 price is probably pretty fair although I'd have to check harder to know that for sure. Back in early 2009 that rifle would likely have brought $600 or more.
 
@ Cee Zee,

"Troll?"

Really?

"If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names.”
----- Elbert Hubbard


Tell you what, if you can just give a sensible and coherent answer to the question that I asked you after your first post, I'll acknowledge that your knowledge of SKSs far surpasses my own. I will also apologize for all my "trolling".

"Yugos are good rifles. But the Chinese rifles have some advantages like being lighter and you can add detachable mags if you feel like it. The Yugos have a piece that has to be modified before you can use detachable mags. And it's hard to find the info on how to do it. Most people will tell you it isn't even possible but it is. It just isn't easy. It is very easy with the Norincos. You can change over in less than 10 minutes."

WHAT IS THE MYSTERIOUS PART ON A YUGO SKS THAT HAS TO BE MODIFIED BEFORE YOU CAN USE DETACHABLE MAGAZINES?

While you're at it, please give us detailed step by step instructions on exactly how this arcane process is performed.

Respectfully Yours,
Swampman
 
To get mags to fit in a yugo, you have to take just a little bit of wood off the sides of the mag well, but then you need to switch out parts to be 922r compliant. Otherwise, you get a new stock and compliance parts.
 
@ savage1r
I don't really need any help, there's nothing to it. In fact I've done it before. I just wanted CeeZee to enlighten us on the mysterious part that has to be modified (that almost no one knows about).

Maybe he can do that after he explains all about the "Sino-Soviet model Norinco" that Cluster Bomb posted a link to. (the one that was correctly ID'd as a Yugo by TheLostOtter) It's the super secret one that almost no one knows anything about. You know,the one that has a NATO spec 22mm grenade launcher and looks just like a Yugo 59-66!

He can also no doubt explain how the Soviet technicians (who actually DID help set up Chinese SKS production in the 50s) were able to work with the peasants from Norinco through some sort of time warp, since Norinco wasn't even established until 1980!

Your turn master CeeZee...
Fondly,
The Ignorant Troll

@TheLostOtter, You had best watch out saying anything to contradict Master CeeZee, he makes his living with words and he might declare you an ignorant outlaw Troll too.
 
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It's not exactly legal but neither is modifying a Yugo without using 10 US made parts (from a specific list of parts that can be changed) on the rifle. The laws are detailed and confusing.
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The above is False you do not have to have 10 US made parts you just need to have less than 10 compliance parts (Stocks, Triggers, Sear, Disconnector,gas piston, muzzle device, magizine and follower etc, etc) that are foreign made.
 
I believe that mookiie is 100% correct here. If the law specified that the weapon had to have 10 US made parts and you used a US made magazine with 3 compliance parts (magazine body, follower and floorplate), to help you meet the total, the instant you removed the magazine, you'd be in violation of federal law since your weapon would now contain only 7 US made parts.

Good catch mook!
It's been almost six years since I modded a weapon to meet 922r, I didn't catch that until you pointed it out.

WHERE ARE YOU MASTER CEEZEE? ANOTHER TROLL HAS REARED THEIR UGLY HEAD BY DOUBTING YOUR SACRED AND (supposed to be) UNCHALLENGED KNOWLEDGE!

COME QUICKLY AND SMITE HIM SORE WITH YOUR MIGHTY (professional) WORDS!
 
The yugo will increase in value faster than a Norinco. I have a Chinese and its build and accuracy are pretty good. I shoot mostly off hand, and after 10rds holding that beast up my arm likes the rest of reloading. :lol:
 
mljdeckard,
The increased sight radius and the fact that they're peep sights is intriguing to me. I just can't really figure out from their pictures and descriptions exactly how they mount. I've never even handled one of the sights before, let alone seen one mounted on a rifle.
The description on their website says that no drilling or tapping is required. It appears from the photos that the sight is held in place by the pin that holds the receiver cover on and then stabilized by a couple of screws that go from the rear of the sight and push against the back of the receiver. Is that correct?
Does the sight stay put and hold zero well?
Does it return to zero after the receiver cover has been removed for cleaning?

I ask because there seems to be a serious problem with the stock sights on my Yugos. They seem to be getting more blurry the older they get! I've never heard of Steel getting blurry with age, but I'm pretty sure that's what's happening.

Either that, or my wife is right and I need to get glasses...:cuss:

So, can anyone explain to my wife why the Yugo sights were made from such poor quality, "blurry" steel?
 
I recently grabbed a Yugo that is in practically new condition. I never had any interest in these, but I already handload 7.62x39 and the price was all of $150. How do you pass that up? Unlike my AKMs which can be a bit particular in terms of accuracy with certain types of ammo, my Yugo shoots everything I have tried in it to minute of man accuracy at 100 yards without having to readjust the sights. It feeds FMJ, hollowpoints, softpoints with exposed lead and even the 110 gr. RN meant for the .30 Carbine. Even the .308" bullets I have tried produce very good accuracy, always to the sights at 100 yards. It's a bit on the heavy side and the trigger requires a bit of acclimation, but otherwise it's one of the most nicely made and useful rifles I have ever bought. I had considered removing some of the gadgets hanging on the front end and maybe changing the stock to lighten it up a bit, but I'll probably just refinish the original stock and keep everything else original.

Dave Sinko
 
Here's what I did with mine, inspired by the M14:
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If you would like to know the particulars of this rifle, I can link you to the thread I made about it.

The tech sights are great. They mount by replacing the take down pin at the rear of the receiver. They also use 4 set screws that are tightened against the REAR of the receiver to provide the needed tension to mount securely. It is a pain to take them off, but the quality of the sights makes it well worth it.

You will have to cut your original takedown pin in order to remove it from the rifle IIRC.

Playing the parts game is really lame and confusing but like others have said it's unlikely that the ATF will bust down your door for it. I believe that the spirit of the law was really only meant to be applied to importers. That said, it is only my OPINION and regardless of it as the law stands not playing the 922r game is ILLEGAL.
 
rugerdude, what magazine is that? I don't recognize it as one of the standard duck bill ones.
 
http://www.unclehenrys.com/init/cla...com/init/classifieds/by_seller/347995#4082786

Maybe he can do that after he explains all about the "Sino-Soviet model Norinco" that Cluster Bomb posted a link to. (the one that was correctly ID'd as a Yugo by TheLostOtter) It's the super secret one that almost no one knows anything about. You know,the one that has a NATO spec 22mm grenade launcher and looks just like a Yugo 59-66!
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$400 is horribly overpriced for a Yugo 59/66 as well. I got one from Classic Arms in mint condition soaked in cosmoline for $300 about 6 months ago.
 
Swampman said:
If the law specified that the weapon had to have 10 US made parts and you used a US made magazine with 3 compliance parts (magazine body, follower and floorplate), to help you meet the total, the instant you removed the magazine, you'd be in violation of federal law since your weapon would now contain only 7 US made parts.
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No that is not how it works. The actual rule is no more than 10 of certain foreign counted parts. Not a minimum number of US parts.
Since some rifles have more or less of the parts which are counted the actual number of parts that need to be swapped out depends on the specific firearm.
Removing US parts on a compliant firearm has no impact on the parts count until replaced with foreign parts. So if you removed the US magazine and put a foreign one in then you would be non compliant if the US magazine had just barely brought you into compliance. Using someone else's foriegn magazine at the range for example (many of the best magazines for certain firearm types can be foreign surplus so relying on the 3 parts of a magazine can be a limitation).But simply removing it would have no impact.
 
The magazine was made by someone named John Mason. It's a 10 rounder and is really only good for looks. No bolt hold-open, not compatible with stripper clips, and you have to hold the bolt back in order to remove it.
 
Zoogster,
I'm fairly sure that what you just said is pretty much the same as what I said...

happygeek,
I think I paid 89 bucks each for mine back in 2005.
There were a few electropenciled parts, but the barrels looked brand new and the Tritium in the sights was still bright enough to be usable.
 
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