.22 to fit these critera

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I don't have a .22 :what:

I need one. I have specific criteria. What's a nicely priced (under $200 with a cheaper scope) .22 rifle that will fit what I want?

-Semi-auto
-Uses detachable magazines
-Magazines hold at least 10 rounds, are available, etc.
-Black sythetic stock
-Black action/barrel - prefer no stainless
-Can mount a scope
-Good trigger
-Accurate/reliable/all that good stuff
-Bolt lock back on last shot would be nice though not completely necessary
-Doesn't need anything added other than a rimfire scope

I know theres the Ruger 10/22's, Marlin 60's, Savage's, Remington 597, etc. Which of these makes a model that most closely fits what I'm looking for?

Thanks
 
The marlin mod 60. Other than a used 10/22, they are $250+, and you will stil need money in them to make um good. While tha marlin uses a tube mag, it is still better.
 
Ruger 10/22 sounds good except the trigger, and bolt lock back. I'm not sure how it's accuracy and reliability compare to the marlins.

Marlin 60 doesn't have a detachable magazine.

You might also wish to ask about the marlin 795, which has a 10 round detachable magazine, and probably is similiar to the marlin 60. I'm not sure how it compares to a 10/22, however.
 
When I first started looking into getting a .22, all I knew about were the 10/22 and Marlin 60. When researching I found the 795 which I assumed was a mag-fed 60. Is that right? Lot of people seem to think the Rugers need work to make them good. Then there's also the Savages. I have a Savage bolt action and its nice. I don't care about brand loyalty or whatever, I just want a decent rifle. I haven't found much about the 597.

Is there anyone who can offer firsthand experience with several of these rifles? I have a feeling they'll all pretty much do what I want, I just want to make sure I get what most closely fits what I want.
 
The Remington 597 fits everything except the black synthetic stock... Remington makes it in grey synthetic. Accuracy out of the box rivals that of the Marlin 60. 10 round removeable mags are available at just about every Remington retailer. It's target (step) crowned from the factory. Heavier stock factory barrel than Marlin, Ruger, and Savage. Also, the Remington is the only one mentioned that has the feel of a "big" rifle, i.e. it's not scaled down in size like most others.

It's a rimfire, what ammo it likes will depend on the gun... Mine likes the Remiington Golden HP's and Federal Coppered HP's (both bulk 550's) As well as the CCI MM's...

Good luck...
My 597 @ 50yards: 10 shots
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5 shots
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The Marlin 795 fits all of those. Gander has them for like $120-$130 these days.

I just bought a 795SS today, I'll let you know how it goes.
 
walmart sells the ruger for 200 bucks.
I also do not have a 22 and was thinking I couldnt go wrong with such a price.
thoughts?
 
I can speak from working with these:
Marlin M-60- I would assume the mag fed variant performs the same save for loading. Of the several I have dealt with all shot well and were reliable. The safeties made them my choice for new shooters. Mounted with 4x32 scopes I would trust it to shoot under an inch at 75 yards (my standard test range for rimfires). The trigger is not a match job, but is fine for your criteria.
Remington 597- Dealt with 3 of them. First would not hold a group any better than a strainer holds water. All over and nothing could bring it in. It was exchanged for a bolt gun. The second was goo for an inch or so and really liked federal ammo (little traitor I guess). The third is still owned by the same guy. It will shoot 9mm cases all day long at the range. It is light and easy to handle.
Ruger 10/22- I would like to have a good thing to say but I don't for the low end model. I don't know about the synthetic stock and if it would help, but it might. I don't think I've ever seen one that I would trust to hit quarters at 75yds, which makes me wonder at their popularity.
Browning Buckmark- Out of your price range, but if I had to pick one semi .22 to have this would be it. I've owned some and regret getting rid off them, especially the little carbon one. Dimes at 75yds. The speed of follow ups, reloads, the steadiness in the hands and the light weight (my carbon again- 4# scoped) all make this the winner for me. Again it is pricey which is why I haven't replaced them yet, but I will.
 
Within the parameters you set, it would have to be a Marlin model 60. The Ruger is a good rifle and can easily be made to be reliable and accurate. But they just don't come that way out of the box.

I am curious as to why it has to be a semi auto.
 
marlin 795, mossberg plinkster. the mossy can be hit or miss, the 795 has been made for about as long as the mod 60 now. Just as good and reliable as the 60, you should be able to buy one used for 100 bucks or less, new for 150.
you cannot do this with any other rifle, unless they are used. my next choice would be the remmy 597.
 
yes the 795 is the mod 60, with a mag. yes the remmy can be had with a black stock. no the ruger will not do this, for anywhere near 200 bucks.

one more thing; good trigger is non exsistent for rifles under 300 bucks. you can take the marlin trigger return spring, and replace it with a bic pen spring, and reduce your trigger pull in half.
 
The Ruger 10/22 is the most reliable .22 semiauto rifle ever produced. I've worked on too many marlins to like them at all. You MIGHT have 1 that works, and chances are 1-10 that you won't. Sure the 10/22s need help in regards to trigger, but name a .22 that WILL have a good trigger for that price.
 
not to take this personal Stalkinbear, but about 1 bazillion dudes would disagree with you, if you check over on rimfirecentral.com. It is far more likely that a new or used 10.22 , will not be accurate out of the box, and will have some trouble feeding or ejecting rounds. Most dudes upon getting them, do a minimum of replacing the extractor/ejector setup, to get them to run right.
 
not to take this personal Stalkinbear, but about 1 bazillion dudes would disagree with you, if you check over on rimfirecentral.com. It is far more likely that a new or used 10.22 , will not be accurate out of the box, and will have some trouble feeding or ejecting rounds. Most dudes upon getting them, do a minimum of replacing the extractor/ejector setup, to get them to run right.
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Then you will need to do something about the trigger and the barrel. And after all that, whats a few hundred more for________________(fill in the blank)

They can be made to run and shoot very well, but we were talking about how they work out of the box.


one more thing; good trigger is non existent for rifles under 300 bucks. you can take the marlin trigger return spring, and replace it with a bic pen spring, and reduce your trigger pull in half.
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I have done several Model 60 trigger jobs using the info in the thread below. They are cheap and easy, and work well.


http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143780&highlight=marlin+60+trigger+job
 
I stand by my statement that 10/22s are the most reliable-EVEN out of box. I never claimed they are most accurate or have best trigger pull out of box. You may not realize this but they can be made to shoot pretty accurate by modifying the factory parts only. A simple trigger job including drilling & tapping for excessive overtravel and takeup. Mill the bolt to .043 case rim depth, set barrel back, reface, etc. Most people that accurize their 10/22s choose to replace parts instead of refitting the factory parts. But the point is the 10/22 is the most reliable out of box. I've been selling & working on guns for 27+ years now and have seen a BUNCH of firearms to base my opinion on FIRSTHAND-NOT basing my opinion on what others have to say. Feel free to disagree with me but remember I've personally seen hundreds of examples over the years and don't have to go by what others say. My opinion may not be popular, but it's based on lots pf personal experience and is MY unshakable opinion. You believe what you want.
 
Not to rock the boat, but consider spending a bit more. It's not really necessary, but when you think about how the gun could very likely see 100,000 rounds in its lifetime, an extra $50-100 to start off with is no big deal.

A good .22LR rifle is WORTH far more than they go for in my opinion.
 
Oh I believe you stalkingbear, and I have a 10.22, and most of my parts are origional, and modded. However, my used pawnshop find, mod 60 will do this at 100 yds;, with no mods, or other parts, or modded factory parts. now then, I know this is not typical of the mod 60, it may be very close, but this is a highly accurate, to be almost radically accurate, mod 60.
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All done at American shooting centers, Houston.
100 yd line, sandbag rests only. Scope is a Barska 6x24, with Kwik Site tip off blocks, then Kwik Site rings/mounts.
check again that American Eagle group; a 1 hole 5 shot group at 100 yds, with a flyer!!!!

Again, no 10.22 is under 150 bucks, not even used. I also doubt that even the most highly
modified 10.22 costing near the Volquartzen Galaxy, can match this accuracy, ever.

This , by the way, was part of testing done over a 3 day period, testing about 150 diff types of
22 rounds, diff made bullets by same mfgrs, and multiple mfgrs as well. All these groups are typically 1 inch or less, at 100 yds. This rifle did this with about 30 diff types of ammo, these pics just happen to be some pics of some of the best groups. I also doubt a 10.22 can group moa at 100 yds, with so many diff types of ammo, but a typical mod 60 can group many diff types of ammo this well.
 
I never tried to claim the Marlin/Glenfield model 60s isn't accurate, Was just talking about out of box reliability, and the original poster stated removable magazine. I've seen some model 60s that shot all out of proportion to their cost. As to modified rifles however, the 10/22 gets the nod IMO only. I've built some incredibly accurate 10/22s intended for match. But you just can't slap a heavy barrel and stock on 1 and call it building it. When I build 10/22s, I blueprint the bolt, thread receiver/barrel blank, etc. And that's just to start. It is fun to handfit a "sleeper" however.
 
King, you're going to have to try harder to convince a Marlin/Glenfield model 60 is better than the Ruger model 10/22!:neener: Like I stated earlier, i've had to fix too many DOZENS of model 60s over the years to even recommend them to anybody. You know for a fact the factory magazines for 10/22 are bombproof. Also it's usually the brass inner tube and follower that gets you into trouble-not the steel outside tube. Get real and DON'T recommend to ANYBODY the TOTAL JUNK 5.00$ special throwaway "scopes" they put on them. It's the WORST thing you can do is attempt to use these junk POS. It would be FAR better to get an 4x-32mm.
 
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