Ive decided (after resisting for some time) that I will leave the 180 realm for a bit. Ive gifted myself a box of 168 Tipped triple shocks from Barnes. I know there's a lot of folks who love these things, I have IMR 4064(4 lbs) and would like to see if anyone has some pointers with these different bullets. I would really like to get as close to 3000 fps as I could, 4064 has been really generous to me with pressure in the past.