A Glock Tale
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Sergeant Sabre
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I like carrying a cocked 1911. I don't understand why people are irrationally scared of it. The hammer on one of those pistols, to my knowledge, has never in human history dropped without being told to. In order to do so, the sear would have to simply disintegrate.
My pistol was designed to win fights, not lawsuits.
But if you like a Glock, fine. Go like Glock, then. No big deal. I really don't mind at all.
My pistol was designed to win fights, not lawsuits.
But if you like a Glock, fine. Go like Glock, then. No big deal. I really don't mind at all.
Very funny Boats, i really enjoyed it. 
Unfortunately Glocks blowing up is just untrue. You know what is true though? People spending 1000.00$ and up for a racy 1911 that they have to take to the smithy every month just to make it work half the time. 
Unfortunately Glocks blowing up is just untrue. You know what is true though? People spending 1000.00$ and up for a racy 1911 that they have to take to the smithy every month just to make it work half the time. Since were gun bashing now maybe somebody can answer this one for me. Why do some folks spend 900.00 plus dollars on a HK that is blocky, has a trigger pull like mashed potatoes and is no more reliable or accurate than a Glock 17 or a Sig? I could take a Taurus, slap a 1000.00 dollar price tag on it, say in a world of compromise some don't and these folks would think it was the best thing since sliced bread. 
Flame on Brothers, flame on.
Flame on Brothers, flame on.I was nearly rolling on the floor at this point, great piece, thanks!!
I've owned glocks, 1911's, hk's. Some good experiences, some not so. The original post was funny, but the humorless and unoriginal slams on the other brands are a little immature. Be sure to put away all the toys and turn off the lights when you're done, kids.
Ash
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Well, the 1911 followers have something to crow about in that ultimately, the Browning design is what most modern pistols evolved from. Browning invented it, everyone else refined it. The Glock is evolved from the 1911. Yep, it is. No matter how it is viewed. There is almost nothing original about Glocks, nothing inovative (not frame material, not method of locking up, not striker design, not take down (CZ-52)). Yet, followers of the 1911 are as folks in a cult with Browning the annointed one. The 1911 is very competent, very capable, but not perfection.
Glock-o-philes can crow about the Glock being cheaper to produce and utterly reliable. They don't rust very easily and have no external safeties, a concept that to them is wonderful. They can be used and abused (though I must admit I would never admit to trashing my pistol the way some Glockos do). Also, Glocks are very light and were designed much more recently (on that note, true audio fans love LP's because of the richness of music, LP's being designed in the 19th century, but I digress). Glocks are also hyped in movies and that makes one feel good about their product. Yet, Glocks are no closer to perfection than 1911's. And, devotion to Gaston is just as cultish as Browning.
It kinda reminds me of the Roman Catholic/Southern Baptist arguments. As a Presbyterian CZ-75 follower, I just sit back and watch. You see, all three believe in God and Jesus, the problems lie in the details. Glocks and 1911's are BOTH superb weapons that are accurate and competent and had the 1911 been made in 9mm before WWII, there would have been legions of European purchasers. The Glock-o-philes damn the 1911 because of .45, yet their own prophet not only has pistols in Browning's chambering, but also have created their own, making their prophet somewhat fallen, I suppose. 1911's damn the Glock because of a lack of manual safeties, yet pre firing pin block 1911's cannot be safely carried chambered, hammer down and in that instance, the manual safeties are useless. Glocks require no manul operation of safeties, but cannot be safely carried unless the trigger is covered.
I love watching lovers of Glock or 1911 (Glocks more often) who are so intense that they probably crap diamonds getting their feathers ruffled. That little bit of prose above was humerous (about as funny as the new .45SAP round mentioned last year, you know, the .45 Short Auto Pistol round that is so short as to be magical).
I don't like plastic so will never own any kind of polymer handgun. But, I concede that Glocks are well-made and competent pistols. They aren't perfection, though. Neither are 1911's. I like double action pistols and have owned several 1911's in my life but always end up selling them. But, I have friends who use Glocks, friends who use 1911's, and I use the CZ-75 (or Witness in .45, covering both calibers). It really isn't a big deal, they are all good weapons.
Ash
Glock-o-philes can crow about the Glock being cheaper to produce and utterly reliable. They don't rust very easily and have no external safeties, a concept that to them is wonderful. They can be used and abused (though I must admit I would never admit to trashing my pistol the way some Glockos do). Also, Glocks are very light and were designed much more recently (on that note, true audio fans love LP's because of the richness of music, LP's being designed in the 19th century, but I digress). Glocks are also hyped in movies and that makes one feel good about their product. Yet, Glocks are no closer to perfection than 1911's. And, devotion to Gaston is just as cultish as Browning.
It kinda reminds me of the Roman Catholic/Southern Baptist arguments. As a Presbyterian CZ-75 follower, I just sit back and watch. You see, all three believe in God and Jesus, the problems lie in the details. Glocks and 1911's are BOTH superb weapons that are accurate and competent and had the 1911 been made in 9mm before WWII, there would have been legions of European purchasers. The Glock-o-philes damn the 1911 because of .45, yet their own prophet not only has pistols in Browning's chambering, but also have created their own, making their prophet somewhat fallen, I suppose. 1911's damn the Glock because of a lack of manual safeties, yet pre firing pin block 1911's cannot be safely carried chambered, hammer down and in that instance, the manual safeties are useless. Glocks require no manul operation of safeties, but cannot be safely carried unless the trigger is covered.
I love watching lovers of Glock or 1911 (Glocks more often) who are so intense that they probably crap diamonds getting their feathers ruffled. That little bit of prose above was humerous (about as funny as the new .45SAP round mentioned last year, you know, the .45 Short Auto Pistol round that is so short as to be magical).
I don't like plastic so will never own any kind of polymer handgun. But, I concede that Glocks are well-made and competent pistols. They aren't perfection, though. Neither are 1911's. I like double action pistols and have owned several 1911's in my life but always end up selling them. But, I have friends who use Glocks, friends who use 1911's, and I use the CZ-75 (or Witness in .45, covering both calibers). It really isn't a big deal, they are all good weapons.
Ash
Island Beretta
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Shot a match last Sunday and had to engage six steel targets through a barrel.. I pushed the gun way inside the barrel and the explosion was so loud I thought I had a kaboom!! a quick check of the gun however showed everything intact but I lost a couple of seconds.. :banghead:
FWIW, I have had a Glock kaboom on me already, I can still see the scar in my right hand even as I type this..
a quick check of the gun however showed everything intact but I lost a couple of seconds.. :banghead: FWIW, I have had a Glock kaboom on me already, I can still see the scar in my right hand even as I type this..
Old Dog
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Weps states,
Methinks someone needs to get to know some folks who actually know a bit about 1911s and stop believing the tripe posted on GlockTalk ...
Methinks someone needs to get to know some folks who actually know a bit about 1911s and stop believing the tripe posted on GlockTalk ...
A. Partisan
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Walter? Is that you?
sfhogman
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Of course John Moses Browning was divinely inspired!
One would think that I would get tired of posting the following link,
but so far- oh well...
http://home.sprynet.com/~frfrog/jmb.htm
Hee Hee.
One would think that I would get tired of posting the following link,
but so far- oh well...
http://home.sprynet.com/~frfrog/jmb.htm
Hee Hee.
Sergeant Sabre
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Excellent link!!!!
I love it!!!
I love it!!!
denfoote
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I personally have four!!
I thought everybody knew that the design for the Glock was transmitted to Lord Gaston, by the Grays, channeling through Art Bell!!
Maybe you should take a trip over to the 1911forum and see if im pulling your leg. The only thing those guy's do other than fix their guns is argue over who makes the best half way reliable 1911. 50% well tell you they carry Glocks because they don't trust their 1911's. I willing to bet that the majority of 1911 fans here carry glocks too, and the ones that just can't stand to be carrying a Glock, carry a Glock knock off like the Croation XD.
Master Blaster
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My Glock Tale
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=106015&highlight=Glock+jam
BTW Glock did finally send me 7 17 round magazines for free after my 6th call and talking to Steve the Customer service supervisor.
I have 5 different 1911s a couple have more than 10,000 rounds through them and never had any of them jam on me as bad as the G34.
BTW I still have and like the G-34 it works fine now that its been debugged.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=106015&highlight=Glock+jam
BTW Glock did finally send me 7 17 round magazines for free after my 6th call and talking to Steve the Customer service supervisor.
I have 5 different 1911s a couple have more than 10,000 rounds through them and never had any of them jam on me as bad as the G34.
BTW I still have and like the G-34 it works fine now that its been debugged.
Sergeant Sabre
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WEPS said:
That's a completely unsubstantiated statement. If I had to take a stab at the truth, I'd guess, from conversations on that forum as well as face-to-face converstions with other shooters, that most of those attracted to the 1911 love it how well it lends itself to carry.
The notion that 1911s aren't reliable is pure myth, backed up somewhat by ultra-tight target pistols that in fact, are not reliable. The fact is that a whole boatload of companies make 1911-pattern pistols with parts of varying quality, and varying tolerances, with varying degrees of hand-fitting. This does indeed breed reliability problems with some pistols.
I find it a ridiculous notion that the US Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps would carry a pistol into combat that is barely 50% reliable, at best as you said, for the past 94 years. The "Army Automatic" was so beloved that soldiers and Marines wrote songs and poems about it.
If you think the 1911 isn't reliable if made properly, you've been spending too much time on the internet.
If you think the Glock (which I do indeed believe is a fine pistol) is the only thing out there, then you listen to too much rap music.
Old Dog
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I'm in kind of a cranky mood this morning, so why not milk this thread a bit longer?
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. I AM a member there. 1911 aficianados are, to be sure the most demanding and fussy gun people there are. Those who carry Glocks are not nearly as fussy, hence the fact that most Glock folks typically know little about how their guns work; all they care about is that the gun goes "bang." 1911 guys, on the other hand, tend to be the most knowledgeable and gun-savvy folks out there, who understand the operationg principles, parameters and specs of their guns. Yes, 1911 people obsess like no others about their handguns. But, the guns do work. And work well.
I'll take that bet. And I also know that the 1911 owners who routinely carry Glocks do so only because they're required to (on the job) or it's on the odd occasion they don't want to get a nice gun wet ...
Of course, what do I know? I've only been carrying (and have even carried a Gov't Model in harm's way for Uncle Sam) and shooting 1911s for the past 30 years or so ...
"Croatian (note the spelling) knock-off?" Ah, more envy about how the Croats and Springfield have out-Glocked Gaston ...
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. I AM a member there. 1911 aficianados are, to be sure the most demanding and fussy gun people there are. Those who carry Glocks are not nearly as fussy, hence the fact that most Glock folks typically know little about how their guns work; all they care about is that the gun goes "bang." 1911 guys, on the other hand, tend to be the most knowledgeable and gun-savvy folks out there, who understand the operationg principles, parameters and specs of their guns. Yes, 1911 people obsess like no others about their handguns. But, the guns do work. And work well.
I'll take that bet. And I also know that the 1911 owners who routinely carry Glocks do so only because they're required to (on the job) or it's on the odd occasion they don't want to get a nice gun wet ...
Of course, what do I know? I've only been carrying (and have even carried a Gov't Model in harm's way for Uncle Sam) and shooting 1911s for the past 30 years or so ...
"Croatian (note the spelling) knock-off?" Ah, more envy about how the Croats and Springfield have out-Glocked Gaston ...
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