A Shotgun, Me & a Bandit.

[brassdog]

Originally posted by wdlsguy
"This statute [G.S. § 14-315] further provides that it is a Class H felony for a person to sell, offer for sale, give, or in any way transfer to a person less than 18 years of age any handgun as defined in G.S. § 14-269.7."

Assuming an 18 year old can get a permit to purchase a handgun in North Carolina, I can't see why he/she can't buy one from a private party there.

In NC, YOU CANNOT DO A PRIVATE PARTY PURCHASE WITHOUT A HANDGUN PERMIT ISSUED BY THE LOCAL COUNTY SHERIFF.

I not shouting but wanting to make it very clear to this young man the legalities involved with this route. Also, I think that perhaps you should avail yourself to some martial arts training. Not to make you a "Bree Lee" wannabe but rather to let you experience the not so sublte reality of what physical combat is.

 

[V4Vendetta]

v4vendetta,

Ok, I know where you're at now. Let me recommend the Grandview Firearems Training Center, website is gftc.com. It's a good place to learn and the guys and gals there can help you out. I used to live around the Tobaccoville area so I know what you're getting into. Folks around there can come in 2 basic varities, good and bad. The bad ones are either stupid or lazy but who wants to put themselves at their mercy? You may not be able to legally own a handgun yet but if you get the training and update on relevant laws you will be ahead of the curve when you do come of age.

Good Luck!

This is the type of post I'm looking for. If you don't have any helpful advice, go to another topic. Thanks brassdog.

 

[Tomcat1066]

I think the vast majority of folks were trying to BE helpful. It's a shame you don't feel the same way.


Tom

 

[mmike87]

I've been thinking. If a guy tries to hold up my store, I'll be at my station with a shotgun under the desk. Now you guys probably haven't been to my store so let me describe it so you can draw a mental picture. If you walk straight to the register after you come in, you can't see my desk. My dad however, if he's at his desk, you can see. He's unarmed. If a BG comes in and pulls a gun on him, what should I do? I don't want to get him killed or have a mexican stand-off. I've been thinking that when the guy is leaving, I could pump a shell to scare him with that sound & shout "FREEZE!". If he does something foolish like turning around or not freezing, I'd waste him. But what if after my dad gives him the money from the register, the BG still isn't happy & shoots him. I don't want that either. What are your thoughts? I'm not worried about legal issues or anything like that. I plan for my parents & me to die of old age. Not some crackhead who wants a quick fix.

I think the psych effect of the "shotgun sound" is severely overrated. I certainly would not depend on that to provide any advantage or benefit.

Keep a round safely chambered. If the perp is threatening the life of you or your folks, shoot him. I don't worry about the legal ramifications - because if I am shooting it means I think I am going to DIE ... and any possible legal hassel after the fact is better than DEATH.

I think some people want to warn people or try and hold them at gunpoint because they are not sure if they should shoot. Those people should not be carrying guns.

Now, I can see possible scenarios where weird things could happen. While you are "presenting" your weapon to defend yourself, the perp could see it and immediately turn and run. In this case, you'd better NOT shoot because it's a hard sell to prove someone running away was a direct threat to your life - and you can't shoot someone because they THREATENED your life - they have to be THREATENING your life - right now, when you pull the trigger.

Just MHO, of course.

 

[V4Vendetta]

I think the vast majority of folks were trying to BE helpful. It's a shame you don't feel the same way.


Tom

No, the vast majority of folks are making cracks about my age, my questions, etc. Few folks like Brassdog & dogwielder, for instance are actually helping. I have decided that this topic is too flammable for me. Please lock it. Anything useful, you can PM me.

 

[BullfrogKen]

This is the type of post I'm looking for. If you don't have any helpful advice, go to another topic.

I've got no problems with your age. I have reservations about your maturity and credibility. If you are only looking for responses which encourage you, you're right, you won't get them from me.

You live at home with your parents, they employ you, they love you and are looking out for you. You may not feel this way; and unfortunately there are parents who out of guilt or feelings of inadequacy will give in to their kid's desires and give them what they want rather than say no. They have wisdom and experience, and want the best for you.

I'm still standing behind your Dad here. He sounds like a good man. He knows you better than anyone here, and if he feels you aren't mature enough yet, he's got to have his reasons. I have seen nothing yet to persuade me otherwise.

 

[V4Vendetta]

"You live at home with your parents, they employ you, they love you and are looking out for you. You may not feel this way."


I do feel that way. The only thing wrong with what you stated above is that the shop is ours. I make belts, coasters & other leather products. My mom sells Avon. My older brother makes Tye-Dye's. It's a family store.

As for my dad not thinking I'm ready for a pistol, that's because he's listening to my mom who is a anti-gun person. Not just against me having them. She thinks the world is like the Teletubbies. I think it's like the following link.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/v_for_vendetta/trailer/

Click on the link view the trailer.

 

[Tomcat1066]

No, the vast majority of folks are making cracks about my age, my questions, etc. Few folks like Brassdog & dogwielder, for instance are actually helping. I have decided that this topic is too flammable for me. Please lock it. Anything useful, you can PM me.

No, the vast majority offered advice you didn't want to hear. Yeah, there were a couple of cracks about your age, but so what? Sorry, but that's just the way it goes. Based on the tone of your posts, I don't think you're ready for a gun either. Sorry if you hate hearing my opinion, or any other opinion out there, but it's a free country.

Tom

 

[yomama]

I've been thinking that when the guy is leaving, I could pump a shell to scare him with that sound & shout "FREEZE!". If he does something foolish like turning around or not freezing, I'd waste him.

I think it's the comments like this that make people upset. Owning and carrying a gun is a big responsibility. If th BG is leaving the store let him go. Go lock the door and call the police. Personally it scares me to read comments like this because innocent bystanders, including your family, in the store could get hurt or killed by attempting to confront a BG after the threat is over. I'm sure you don't want to be responsible for the death of someone because you want to be a hero. Real life is nothing like the movies. If you were faced with having to actually shoot someone could you do it? Would you do it? Take some time to think real hard about it. Get some training and I think your mindset will change.

 

[V4Vendetta]

"Owning and carrying a gun is a big responsibility."

True.

"If the BG is leaving the store, let him go. Go lock the door and call the police."

I will.

"Real life is nothing like the movies."

Amen & Amen.

"If you were faced with having to actually shoot someone, could you do it? Would you do it?"

Yes. I'm not going to bury my loved ones. They will bury me.

 

[jamz]

Yes. I'm not going to bury my loved ones. They will bury me.

Technically, if you loved ones = your parents, if things go as they should, you would be burying them. If they have to bury you, something has gone wrong.

-James

 

[V4Vendetta]

I think you know what I meant Jamz.