Action movies just aren't as much fun anymore...

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Possibly the most realistic fictional gunfight I've seen was the train station shootout in "The Untouchables." Asymmetrical threats, inexperienced shooters, poor fighting positions, out-of-shape gunfighters with unhealthy personal habits, innocent and maybe-not-so-innocent bystanders, inaccurate pistols, fratricidal full-auto bursts, and the staggering power of a shotgun blast delivered at close range. Topped off by Andy Garcia making a really nice intermediate-distance head shot with the Colt Army Special, fired single action.

A close second for realism is the climactic bar-room shootout in "State of Grace."
 
In a similiar vein to my "Mantacore" observation, in "Leon" (aka "The Professional") at least one of the SWAT guys is carrying an AP-74 style rifle with flare launcher instead of a real M16. The biggest give away is that he holds it muzzle up clearly exposing the .22 LR magazine for the camera.

I won't even go into the absurdity of setting up a machinegun on a tripod to fire a rifle grenade down a hallway in that movie.
 
Early on in "The Hunting Party," there's a scene of some urban combat, and you get a quick close-up side view of some AK-type weapon, just the barrel, mostly. It's equipped with a slant muzzle brake -- installed upside-down -- and it works perfectly, full-auto burst, and no muzzle climb!

If you can stand that, though, the rest of the movie is really quite good.
 
This is one of the funniest threads ever:D I laugh at television gun fights all the time. Especially when someone gets hit w/ a shotgun and gets blown out a window...
 
for the ammo count in Open Range with Kostner SAA, you have to consider that the same shooting is show under 2 or 3 camera angles.. which repeat most of the shots..

What bothered me more were the 44WCF rounds from his Winchester 1873 rifle flying slower than the pellets of my first pellet gun.. ;)

in Broken Trail there some good shooting from Robert Duval as well . Not to mention Geronimo.

Unforgiven was good as well.
 
No BenErza, not really. I brought that one up because I recall one in particular where it takes 10 ninjas like 45 seconds to cross the room one by one against a movie hero.

I will not talk about those movies again. Apologies.
 
Early on in "The Hunting Party," there's a scene of some urban combat, and you get a quick close-up side view of some AK-type weapon,
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Wow that would be silly. "The Hunting Party" being a western and all. Gene Hackman with a scoped Martini was pretty awesome though.
 
As much as it's very old school, in Magnum Force, when Callahan (Eastwood with his S&W), and the evil motorcop (can't recall the name) with his Python shoot the combat course, that is pretty cool. Plus it creates the plot twist. Big bonus points.

I also like most of the gun work in Ronin. The BHP gets some deserved screen time which it sadly lacks given that it's not a hugely popular US gun.
 
No BenErza, not really. I brought that one up because I recall one in particular where it takes 10 ninjas like 45 seconds to cross the room one by one against a movie hero.
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Err, I think he may have been making a play on the mis-spelling in your original post. Marital Arts Movies. :)
 
I've seen some pretty ridiculous stuff in those marital arts movies before, too. I mean, come on... that kind of thing never happens with the maids at motels I stay at.
 
Oro - that was David Soul who went on to play in Starsky & Hutch.

To the poster who blames the editor:
I'm an editor and it's not the editors fault when the continuity coordinator doesn't tell the armorer to provide the correct piece. He can only edit what he gets, not what he wishes he had.
 
Two David Mamet movies: "Spartan" (nice 1911 and Sig work) and "Heist" (which the mob of CZ fans on this board would appreciate).

Make it three with "Homicide," with the NY cop using a BHP as a back-up-that's-really-his primary to his S&W Model 15.
 
No BenErza, not really. I brought that one up because I recall one in particular where it takes 10 ninjas like 45 seconds to cross the room one by one against a movie hero.

I will not talk about those movies again. Apologies.
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What Kentucky and misANTHrope said. I love martial arts movies, and feel free to discuss. It's just that the martial arts and the marital arts are two different subjects, and that misspelling led to a very amusing Ninjas Gone Wild mental picture. :D
 
To the poster who blames the editor:
I'm an editor and it's not the editors fault when the continuity coordinator doesn't tell the armorer to provide the correct piece. He can only edit what he gets, not what he wishes he had.
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Point taken my friend! I didn't know there was such thing as a continuity coordinator, but from now on I will blame that person.
 
I feel ya OP. I can't enjoy the Die Hard series anymore. There are a few military based movies and shows that I can watch. For the most part though there are too many inaccuracies that I just can't stand. Either a problem with firearms not working as they really work, endless magazines, wrong weapon selection, failure of room clearing, failure of strategy and tactics on a military/swat level... I just don't watch action movies anymore. None of them are entertaining anyway. If only I was uneducated again.
 
I wonder why Hollywood is frequently disinterested with accurate gunplay - lying doesn't tell a good story. Guns are cool enough, you don't need to make them magical.

It's funny how Hollywood makes drywall bulletproof, but makes men fly 10 feet after beeing shot... makes guns with limitless ammunition and never have a jam... handguns have a range of a mile accurately, and shotguns practically blow people in half... heros shoot accurately from the hip, yet trained villians can't hit anything to save their lives as the hero mows down hordes of villians with nary a scratch... and body armor would save you but for those "cop killing" bullets that punch holes in thick steel.

I have almost no respect for Hollywood and rarely contribute to it. I rarely go to the movie theater anymore, and only buy the deep discounted DVDs on the clearance racks.

With all this in mind, there are some great ones out there...
Saving Private Ryan
Band of Brothers
Heat
Ronin
Bourne Identity movies
Collateral

to name a few
 
I thought they did a pretty good job with "Enemy at the Gates." Other than putting the wrong, "cooler" PU scope on the rifle, and reversing the rifle to left-hand in the lobby artwork.
 
Terminator, the Sara Connor Cronicles. Robochick come back into the house from standing watch, and proclaims it’s “all clear” as she racks the slide on her shotgun. Every time anything happens all the characters rack the slides on their carry pieces, sometimes it seems more than once.

I though No Country for Old Men had excellent gun handling, I especially liked the scene where he clears water from the barrel of the 1911 before re-inserting the mag and shooting the pit bull. I'm not sure I would have done that, but it was cool.
 
One scene in "The Transporter" really bugged the heck out of me.

The standoff in the office. The girl is threatening everyone with the 1911 from about 2 feet away. The gun is constantly cocked and uncocked, when it could have easily been snatched out of her hands. Also, the Chinese guy firing one handed a giant revolver kinda threw me off. The rest of it was pretty good, though.
 
right in front of your eyes

It's a sad fact as you become older, but "It is written:"

"In much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow."

Also the phenomena is just a reflection of whom it is coming from; I mean what did you expect from the likes of Brad Pitt, John Travolta, etc.
They are the "blind leading the blind" out there; Hollywood.
 
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