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Alumihyde 2 on Witness Frame. SN hid

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Fixed Sight Training, Nov 28, 2012.

  1. Hello all. New to the forum but I ran into an issue with an EAA Witness..

    In the middle of a RIA 9mm 1911 rebuild I decided to try Alumihyde 2 from Brownells and change the frame of my 9mm/22conv from black to Coyote Tan. Just to be different. How many black guns do you see every day?

    I did a detail strip and went over the frame a few times with 400 grit wet or dry and almost took the S/N off. It's barely in the steel.

    I guess I'm going to have to get a stamp set and stamp the number into the frame.:cuss: Unless someone has another idea?:banghead:

    I don't know how to upload pics yet but they are here


    Thanks for any input!
  2. Urban_Redneck

    Urban_Redneck Well-Known Member

    I would hire an engraver to "pick up" the serial number. IMHO, re-stamping could be construed as "altering" the serial number.

    There's a very fine line when dealing with this sort of thing.

  3. Thanks U.R. I thought about that but I do have the recipt and the box it came in with the SN on it. If there was ever an issue I was planning on playing dumb. I rule at playing dumb. I don't even have to play.

    NOLAEMT Well-Known Member

    But now its on the internet for everyone to see...
  5. firesky101

    firesky101 Well-Known Member

    Good to know, I always thought the S/N looked pretty shallow on my witness. Let us see the refinish when you are done. I sure would not mind changing mine a bit.
  6. Urban_Redneck

    Urban_Redneck Well-Known Member

    I don't think "playing dumb" is much of a defense when dealing with the BATF.

    $40 bucks to an engraver today, is cheaper than any lawyer tomorrow.
  7. hardluk1

    hardluk1 member

    Whats the 1911 have to do with the witness frame?
  8. hemiram

    hemiram Well-Known Member

    The serial number on my "Mossad" Tanfoglio 9MM in the "wonder finish" is very "shallow" and it almost looks like a gun that's been refinished, but it hasn't been.
  9. Urban_Redneck

    Urban_Redneck Well-Known Member

    The reason serial numbers can't be stamped over is the same reason they must be stamped or engraved in the first place; Even if the serial # is ground off the metal beneath it can be etched to show what was once there (stamping and even engraving compress the metal beneath numbers).

    Re-stamping(unlikely you have the same stamps as the factory), messes with this potential and that is why, it is illegal.

    That is the condensed explanation I got from the BATF 15 years ago.

    IMHO, If you cover the serial # with paint or it's not a huge deal unless the AHJ demands you scrape it off so the serial # can be read.

    The BATF enforce gun laws with a vengance, ask any dealer or gunsmith that has ever been audited.

  10. I decided I didn't want to stamp it because that may be altering it. I checked with an engraver but it would be a 1.5 or 2 hour rd trip to drop and then another to pick up.

    I think I'll just try to use a pick and clean up the S/N between coats and if someone official ever asks I'll scrape the coating off.

    Thanks for the input.:) and I'll put up pics when I get done.

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