An anti-gun 20/20 this friday

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Sending any protest to the BATF&E would be a waste of effort. It's been tried before. They will reply that there was no "illegal intent," and that under the First Amendment news organizations must be given wide latitude so that they can do investigative reporting, which is both protected and in the public interest.

You may disagree, but that’s the way it is.

Lets slow down a bit and get better organized. Our turn is coming, but going off half-cocked is not a good answer.
 
I've been down this road before, so I know what works.... and what doesn't.

Those in the firearms community have every right to be outraged about some of the stunts that the anti-gun mainstream media pull off. But pouting or blustering on our part won't discourage them. In fact it will encourage them too do some more.

The effective way is to attack their interests. In other words make problems for them - and complaining to the BATF&E or sending the network a hot-worded letter won't do it.

Filing complaints with the FCC is something they really don't want, nor does the idea of upsetting advertisers give them a warm and fuzzy feeling either.

BUT TO BE AFFECTIVE OUR RESPONCE MUST BE ACCURATE, FACTUAL, AND WELL DOCUMENTED!

That's why it is important that we take enough time to get our ducks in a row, and our facts straight - and hopefully documented. Otherwise it is simply our opinion vs. their opinion – and that won't cut the mustard.

During the coming days, the information everyone needs will be collected and posted on this and other forums. After that everyone will have what they need to make a good impression, and hurt um' where it hurts.

Right now the best plan is to hold off until everything is better organized.
 
They had an episode on ABC tonight. They gave a kid a paintball gun and told him to conceal it under his shirt and that he would attend a class. While sitting in the class a guy bursts in and starts blasting away, suspiciously targeting the young man first. Diane Sawyer shows the tape and says that even having a gun would not have saved this man's life in a real situation. It was a crock. The show doesn't mention a single situation where a firearm has saved a life, even though there have been thousands of such incidents. It is sad that FOX is the only fair and balanced news available.
 
I hope they didn't actually call a ditzy teleprompter-announcer like Diane Sawyer a reporter.

I'm all done watching abc. Another Bloody Communist.
 
...during the classroom scenes the cop/shooter actually goes out of his way to AVOID shooting the other 'students' just to hone in on the one with a gun....
 
Watching the story right now. My blood boils as I debate this with my relatively anti spouse. I don't know why I do it.

It does help remind me though of the uphill battle we face. Lots of non-High Road thoughts right now.
 
So so far, they showed a poor setup, a gang neighborhood where probly non of the guns were purchased legally, and 24 students who did not point the gun at anyone but failed to notify and adult.
 
***, I'm 42 minutes into this crap and it is totally slanted. I expect at least a somewhat fair report, but this is ridiculous.

Remember ABC is owned by Disney Corp.
 
It's typical. Monday at work all the knuckleheads are going to be telling me, "I saw on 20/20 a gun really won't help you if you're being shot at."
A gun wouldn't help you if someone snuck up and shoved you down the stairs, either. I'm sure the "common sense" alternative is to bow to the shooter and apologize for America's insensitivity, but I still want the gun.

So annoying. One girl did hit the "shooter", though, If I saw correctly. They made a big deal out of it not being a torso hit, but It would have definitely come near the femoral artery and possibly smashed his femur. It could have produced enough Nervous System shock to stop a fight.
 
This recent segment talked about the "gunshow loophole"

Before Omar gets inside, he buys a glock. No CPL/PP and later an ATF guys says "everything today was legal, nothing Omar did was wrong."

I can't believe how many incompetent people there are. Well, it's not their fault - they aren't educated with the other side. Society feeds on negative news. It's much easier to say a gun is the problem rather than what actually is.

ABC & 20/20 fail.
 
did anyone notice @ approx. 40 min. in, @ the gun show that guy Omar being approached by a guy while standing outside his prius w/ those firearms, the old guy w/ the USMC hat asking if he was selling a .22?
they made it seem like the old guy was asking for kiddie porn or crystal meth or something.
***?
 
how many times are you wearing a saftey shield and gloves in class it kinda makes it hard to get your gun out in the army we had to train extensively with our weapon while wearing our chemical (mopp) gear and these kids have little to no training. I need to quit watching this crap it just pisses me off
 
I did that same simulation that Diane Sawyer just tried and failed. It was a simulated traffic stop and they intentionally had her holster her gun. I had the gun unholstered but pointed down when doing the exercise. I did land a couple rounds on the guy in the back of the pickup truck and I don't have all that much experience.

When the do the moving experiment they ignore the guy who had a gun safety class.
 
One tried and effective way to counter this is to contact the advertisers who sponsor this show and tell them that you will no longer buy their products.
 
most cops that i know do not support gun laws its only the brass that leans towards it but the rank and file officers are against gun laws.
 
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