People tend to incorrectly judge the limits of others using their own personal experiences as a measuring stick.
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Anybody put better sights on pocket pistols
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People tend to incorrectly judge the limits of others using their own personal experiences as a measuring stick.
Yes, people also tend to equate their ability to shoot a weapon to the accuracy of the weapon. One day on the range I pulled out my BG380 to shoot a few rounds to test my reloads. The range was hot and I didn't feel like waiting to go down range to put up a target so I just shot at some broken clays on the berm at about 30 yards. I hit about 9 out of 10. I can't say I could do that every time but it did teach me that my BG380 is much more accurate than I gave it credit for. Assuming it is inaccurate because of a short sight radius or barrel is a mistake. Plenty of people have proven that point with snub nosed revolvers in the past.
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The thing is, not everybody are naturaly good shooters. Therefore anything that can aid accuracy is not a bad thing.
Theoretically a snubby is just as accurate as a 8'' .38. but in reality it is not the case. I really want to put better sights on my CP1 but don't know what to get as the pistol is rounded on the top of the slide. If I can put on adjustable sights I will not sell the pistol. Otherwise I will have to. It groups fine enough, just not where you are aiming. I don't want to compensate in a self defence situation
Theoretically a snubby is just as accurate as a 8'' .38. but in reality it is not the case. I really want to put better sights on my CP1 but don't know what to get as the pistol is rounded on the top of the slide. If I can put on adjustable sights I will not sell the pistol. Otherwise I will have to. It groups fine enough, just not where you are aiming. I don't want to compensate in a self defence situation
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http://www.innovativearms.com/id18.html
The sight upgrade includes a front Trijicon night sight, our custom built plain notch rear sight with cocking serrations, installation and slide refinishing in Satin Black Resin.
The sight upgrade is performed on the Ruger LCP, Taurus TCP and Ket-Tec P3AT (second generation).
I don't have any first hand knowledge of Innovative Arms work.
The sight upgrade includes a front Trijicon night sight, our custom built plain notch rear sight with cocking serrations, installation and slide refinishing in Satin Black Resin.
The sight upgrade is performed on the Ruger LCP, Taurus TCP and Ket-Tec P3AT (second generation).
I don't have any first hand knowledge of Innovative Arms work.
mdauben
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Actually, both the Kahr P380 and Sig P238 come with better than average sights for pocket pistols. Nothing wrong with having good sights, as long as they don't impede draw from the pocket.
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I have removed sights from pocket guns.
I own some which were manufactured without sights, others with just a gutter on the top.
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I own some which were manufactured without sights, others with just a gutter on the top.
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WRGADog
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I put night sights on my Beretta Nano and Kimber Solo.
Sights.
I glued a fluorescent tube to my slide with JB weld see attached photo. I did the same thing to one of my 1911 about 20.000 rounds ago and it has never fallen off.
If some of you try this, make sure the slide is clean with no oil on it and sand the side of the fluorescent tube where it’s going to sit in the JB wield.
I glued a fluorescent tube to my slide with JB weld see attached photo. I did the same thing to one of my 1911 about 20.000 rounds ago and it has never fallen off.
If some of you try this, make sure the slide is clean with no oil on it and sand the side of the fluorescent tube where it’s going to sit in the JB wield.
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WardenWolf
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I did it on the cheap. I went to siteglo.com, ordered some of their sight paint, and put it on my P-64 and PA-63. FYI, that stuff will NEVER come off. It's the real deal.
gandog56
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My S&W Bodyguard has both sights and a laser. I love it.
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IMO, many "pocket pistols" aren't. While they may indeed fit inside a pocket they're too big to acquire a firing grip and quickly draw from a pocket and land good hits quickly.
Hitting an 8 inch steel plate at 25 yards isn't that hard. Its easy with my service pistols. It takes a little more concentration with a small DAO pistol but it still isn't that hard. Nor would I equate that to the shooting Hickok45 does. Comments like that one happen when you get your handgun knowledge from YouTube instead of on the range.
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meanmrmustard
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I'm going to wager he shoots more than you.
He carries, shoots well, and is quite accurate with most any gun. That's because Hickok is on the same range, shooting at the same stuff, from the same spot. I disagree that range practice is sufficient preparation for using after market sights in a gun battle.
You can hit a 8" steel plate at 25 yards? Woohoo! So can my Grandma. Doesn't mean those sights or your range practice, which I might add has you shooting static, are going to amount to a hill o' beans come the day you must draw that pocket rocket to put a threat down.
By your line of thinking, I could compare resumes with Chris Costa because of my range knowledge.
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Let me rephrase: I don't find shooting in a static position, in a Weaver stance, at known distances sufficient combat training for myself.
If you find that type of "training" for defensive pistol combat adequate...well, good luck.
Did you even red my post? I didn't compare myself to anyone so you have no "line of thinking" to reference. I simply said the weapon is capable of shooting at 25 yards like most other pistols and I would be happy to show it was true. I didn't claim it was a special talent or that I had any special talent at all. The other poster tried to make it sound like an impossible feat with the, "LOL LOL LOL" not me. I was only agreeing that anyone could do it. Attacking me was pointless.
BTW, when I said I wouldn't equate it to the shooting Hickock45 does (I didn't even bring him up initially) I was referring to the fact many of his targets are at distance much farther than 25 yards away. His gong is at 80 yards it I remember correctly. He also does quite a bit of shooting on the move and I personally wouldn't presume to know what his training is or how well he shoots on the move otherwise. His videos are mainly meant as reviews of the weapons at hand not to show his "combat shooting" techniques. It makes sense to shoot at static targets from a fixed position in that case. Besides, his videos are for entertainment, I've never seen him claim they were anything but that so making some comparison between his videos and "combat pistol" shooting is pretty strange.
Secondly, I would assume you have attended some type of "combat shooting' course you think entitles you to attack others or to presume you know more than everyone else. Just so you know, you aren't the only person who has had that type of training. Some of us just don't spout off about it every chance we get, especially in a thread talking about pocket pistols.
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meanmrmustard
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If you feel attacked, I would implore you to not be oversensitive.
...and yes, I READ your posts. Your statement invites questioning when you assume for no reason that another poster is either less skilled, or doubtful. While I agree that "LOL"x3 is a bit much, who cares if you can hit a plate at 25 yards? Marksmanship with a pocket pistol is a minute skill, and only a small part of defense. Can you do that during duress? While running, hiding? Being shot at?
Don't take offense, as I mean none. I merely question the importance of static accuracy with a defense pistol.
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meanmrmustard
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Somewhere I imagine.
I agree. I've read posts where a Glock owner drops his G26 into his cargo pocket and declares the G26 a "Pocket Pistol", or other example where people have posted a photo of their pistol crammed into their front pocket - not only printing clear as day but probably requiring a shoehorn to get the thing back out, and they declare it a "Pocket Pistol"
As far as changing out sights on a pocket pistol - if it still goes into and out of all of your pockets smoothly after the alteration - then that's great.
The sights on the R9 are utilitarian, and preventing snagging on clothing was one of the primary design concerns maybe the main design concern since early versions of the pistol had no sights.
I'll just reiterate what I've said earlier - a pocket pistol is not the best tool for engaging assailants past 25 yards. If you think that is a personal defense scenario that you want to be prepared for - my first choice would be IWB carry of a pistol with a longer sight radius and sights that are not designed primarily to prevent snagging in drawing the pistol out of a pocket... Taking a pocket pistol and changing the sights on it to get your idea of "better" sights and then continuing to pocket carry, would probably be my last choice to make myself prepared for a self-defense scenario where I would be engaging assailants past 25 yards.
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