I'm thinking about purchasing a kahr cw45. I've a lot of dealers tell me there one of the best handguns I can get. Is it really? Can anyone with a kahr or has experience with it tell me more about it? They're going for $500 here, can I do better for that much?
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critter
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I have a Kahr MK9 as a carry gun. More accurate than it has any right to be-has the slickest DA trigger I've felt. NEVER had a failure of ANY kind.
Hope you can find a 45 as good!
Hope you can find a 45 as good!
Johannes_Paulsen
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I also have an MK9 as a carry gun. It's very accurate. It's okay in a pocket, but because of its weight, it really should be thought of as a belt-carry gun that happens to be occasionally pocketable rather than the reverse. The nice thing about it is that it is VERY concealable with an OWB holster and a covering garment. (I often use the Galco Stinger holster for this purpose.)
A lot of people give the trigger high praise. It's not a BAD trigger, but every time I practice with it, I find myself wishing for a 1911 or even a Glock trigger instead. In fact, I think my next purchase is going to be a Springfield EMP.
A lot of people give the trigger high praise. It's not a BAD trigger, but every time I practice with it, I find myself wishing for a 1911 or even a Glock trigger instead. In fact, I think my next purchase is going to be a Springfield EMP.
hardluk1
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The cw45 can be bought for 410 here but our local shop is not your average gun shop. I have a cw and cm but in 9mm great smooth triggers and reliable and for the ones that want for a glock or 1911 they don't really want a light weight concealable pistol. Just be sure your are ready for a 17 oz pistol.
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I own a Kahr CW-9, 9mm semi-auto pistol. In
the hot climates here in Bama'Land, I tend too
reach for it on occassion when dressed only in
shorts and a tee shirt; as if to run to the store
for a loaf of bread or a gallon on milk. At the
range, it has NEVER disappointed me; always
going B-A-N-G, with each trigger pull. Besides,
when I bought it NIB a few years ago; the price
was right- $300 OTD~!
the hot climates here in Bama'Land, I tend too
reach for it on occassion when dressed only in
shorts and a tee shirt; as if to run to the store
for a loaf of bread or a gallon on milk. At the
range, it has NEVER disappointed me; always
going B-A-N-G, with each trigger pull. Besides,
when I bought it NIB a few years ago; the price
was right- $300 OTD~!
I have a Kahr PM9, and even got an engraved slide as I really like it, tinsy winsy and super light but reliably shoots everything I have ever fed it. Will take +P+ 9mm hollowpoints without complaint, and is a fantastic little gun in super hot and humid Houston where even with the thinnest cotton t-shirt and shorts its not noticeable w/ a nice IWB and doesn't weigh you down.
The 45 IIRC is a very similar design, but IMO powerful 9mm hollowpoints are sufficient and I preferred the smaller weight, size, and kick of the PM9. They also made a PM40, but I still felt the kick was a bit much for me.
The 45 IIRC is a very similar design, but IMO powerful 9mm hollowpoints are sufficient and I preferred the smaller weight, size, and kick of the PM9. They also made a PM40, but I still felt the kick was a bit much for me.
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laguna0seca
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I have the CW9. I carry it quite often, especially in the summer. It is extremely comfy. I don't care for the trigger much.
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I love my PM9. Kahr is a quality manufacturer.
420Stainless
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I have a PM45 and ain't getting rid of it anytime soon. Haven't had a problem of any sort with mine in two years.
Nushif
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No info on your gun ... But my E9 (that should date it) has been ticking right along.
Thatnks for some info. Is there anything else I shouldconsider for ccw?
Please no glocks, they're awesome guns, hands down. But I would prefer another brand
@ducman69, I live in houston too. Where is a good place to buy one? The guy I go to charges $500 but I saw in the 40s&w at carters for $399.
Please no glocks, they're awesome guns, hands down. But I would prefer another brand
@ducman69, I live in houston too. Where is a good place to buy one? The guy I go to charges $500 but I saw in the 40s&w at carters for $399.
chris in va
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Kahr started with the K9 and is generally regarded as a very good, reliable gun. Once the company started experimenting with larger calibers using the same blueprint, issues cropped up.
Some of the CW45/P45's are fine, others...not so much. Keep in mind the recoil on the polymer 45's is rather stout, and yes I've fired one.
Some of the CW45/P45's are fine, others...not so much. Keep in mind the recoil on the polymer 45's is rather stout, and yes I've fired one.
The_Armed_Therapist
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I love Kahr! They are the most underrated gun company, in my opinion, and by a large margin. Triggers are great, reliability is basically flawless. They are just smaller versions of the best guns available.
If the price difference is that great, I would definitely go w/ the 40. Personally, I prefer to buy online, as the shipping + $25 FFL rarely exceeds state tax, and prices tend to be better. Just bought a Kel Tec for example that locally I couldn't find for under $520+tax and got it from kygunco online for $450/notax/freeship (very fast)+$25FFL.
For $400, I assume you're referring to the CW. On the CW, just make sure it has the sights you want preinstalled as they aren't changeable IIRC. The P and PM series are more expensive, but have some upgraded parts and an extra magazine.
Lawdawg45
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I used to have a PM-9, but had numerous FTF's even well after the 200 round break in period. This was surprising to me since the feed ramp out of the box looked as if it had been polished by a gunsmith.
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hardluk1
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I wonder if a guy bought ,lets say a kimber and had problems would they just get rid of it and still knock it.
Armed 24/7
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I too bought a new P9 and had numerous FTF issues with all ammo tried. Well after 200 trouble filled rounds, I called Kahr and they suggested that I up the break in to 500 rounds. It rarely made it through a mag without a fail to feed or a stovepipe. After about 600 rounds they paid shipping back to the factory. When it came back, it had a polished feed ramp and was Slightly better. I sold it soon after for a loss. I will never buy one again.
The Lone Haranguer
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Not that particular model, but overall my Kahr experience has been positive. The PM9 I purchased in early 2006 did need repair for major malfunctions, but they took care of it. The E9 - a now discontinued "economy" version of the steel-frame K9 - I purchased in 1999 never had any functional problems, although its staked-on plastic front sight did fall off. (The sight retention on your proposed gun is of the same type, but I presume they've learned how to make them stay on by now.) It has a unique DAO trigger, with a long but light and smooth stroke that has no real "rollover" - as a revolver does when the cylinder turns - or discernible "breaking point" as the striker releases. It sounds odd in words, but you can do very good work with this trigger when you get used to it.
usp9
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The CW45 at Bud's is $371, therefore $500 sounds a little high to me. I enjoyed shooting the P45 and Tp45 I had. I didn't enjoy +P ammo. The guns are very light and recoil gets to be hefty with hot rounds IMHO.
The gun is accurate, the trigger is OK, very suited to and appropriate for it's purpose. I don't care for the standard Kahr sight, therefore I'd recommend and upgrade to another brand, ( Mepro, trijicon, etc.).
Some people complain about the grip being hard on the hand. If so a grip sleeve solves the problem.
I wouldn't pay $500 for a CW9.
If I were to go to a .45 Kahr I'd seriously consider buying a TP45 and cutting the grip down to the CW/P size, thereby keeping it very concealable but with a longer 4" barrel. On paper it sounds like an ideal CCW.
The gun is accurate, the trigger is OK, very suited to and appropriate for it's purpose. I don't care for the standard Kahr sight, therefore I'd recommend and upgrade to another brand, ( Mepro, trijicon, etc.).
Some people complain about the grip being hard on the hand. If so a grip sleeve solves the problem.
I wouldn't pay $500 for a CW9.
If I were to go to a .45 Kahr I'd seriously consider buying a TP45 and cutting the grip down to the CW/P size, thereby keeping it very concealable but with a longer 4" barrel. On paper it sounds like an ideal CCW.
I started with a CW9 traded up to a K9 and then to the TP9 I am wearing as I write. No complaints at all.
Then an acquaintance sold me his P45. A gunsmith friend finally offered the opinion they must be getting too much mileage out of their chamber reamers. He polished it up and it seems to be reliable with factory ammo but is still iffy with my handloads.
According to my LGS guy (whom I trust), he hestitates to stock them since they don't move fast enough to suite him, but his opinion of them is that they don't have issues at any significant rate above competitors.
Then an acquaintance sold me his P45. A gunsmith friend finally offered the opinion they must be getting too much mileage out of their chamber reamers. He polished it up and it seems to be reliable with factory ammo but is still iffy with my handloads.
According to my LGS guy (whom I trust), he hestitates to stock them since they don't move fast enough to suite him, but his opinion of them is that they don't have issues at any significant rate above competitors.
Have and carry a cw9. Have not had a failure with any factory load. Found out it doesn't like WW primers or CCIs in reloads. Don't know why. My 39 smitty, Beretta, and Glock digest them fine.
Sticking to factory stuff I'm confident and love the fact that it is no thicker than my cell phone.
Sticking to factory stuff I'm confident and love the fact that it is no thicker than my cell phone.
I have a K-9 I bought in the early 90's and a PM-9 I bought about four years ago. I have NEVER had a FTF or FTE with either, no problems at all. Follow the recommended break in regimin and shoot it alot. The PM-9 is nearly as accurate as the K-9 and keeping all shot in the A zone of an IPSC target is easy out to 25 yrds and beyond. I am now looking for a K-40. Keep shootin'
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