Anyone ever had an experience with a 1911..

[mljdeckard]

A guy called Tom Gresham's show a couple of weeks ago with the same question, Tom told him he has repeated heard nothing but good things about the Taurus 1911s from many different sources.

Myself, having had a PT 92 years ago that was a nightmare, I would normally hesitate, but I haven't heard anything bad about them either, and it's not like it's an unidentifiable secret, how to build a good 1911. I think I might like to try one if I wasn't already set with my Kimber.

 

[ANVILFIRE]

I have bought junk from Taurus before and won't buy again. But friends have had perfect guns from them. I'd say check out IMPACT GUNS to get a look at what's out there.

 

[mrcpu]

service and support seem to be the big issues.

Get a rock island. Similar features, fabulous support, solid platform. Use the savings on ammo and range fees.

 

[Darkside852003]

Taurus, PT?

If so, is it worth it? Would you trust it by your side? Compared to a Springfield?

What are you looking for in a 1911?

Do you want a basic 1911 that will run?
Or do you want all the bells and whistles?

If you want a basic 1911 I usually recommend a Springfield Mil-Spec or a Colt Series 80 or 70 repo.

If you want something with all the bells and whistles there is the Springfield Loaded, Colt XSE, Springfield MC Operator and more.

Or you can get a Mil-Spec and have a decent smith do some work for you. That way you can have the gun built exactly how you want it.

It all come down to what you want and how much money you have to spend.

 

[loop]

I'm kind of wondering if you are aware you are comparing a Brazilian gun to a Brazilian gun. Brazil is not exactly known for its quality of metal work or machining.

You may want to consider something from the Philippines.

OTOH, you might want to buy an American-made weapon. Last I checked third-world nations weren't making better machinery than the U.S.

STI has a nice gun made on a Filipino frame. Only about $600. But, the frame is the only questionable piece of imported junk you have to worry about...

 

[Darkside852003]

I'm kind of wondering if you are aware you are comparing a Brazilian gun to a Brazilian gun. Brazil is not exactly known for its quality of metal work or machining.

You may want to consider something from the Philippines.

OTOH, you might want to buy an American-made weapon. Last I checked third-world nations weren't making better machinery than the U.S.

STI has a nice gun made on a Filipino frame. Only about $600. But, the frame is the only questionable piece of imported junk you have to worry about...

There is a huge difference from the Taurus to the Springer made frames.

Springfield's slides and frames are fabricated by a Brazilian company called IMBEL. They've been making quality firearms for decades. They have excellent quality steel and quality control, they are far from junk. A comment like that leads me to believe the person has very little hands on experience.

There are three basic stages to producing these pistols: forging the slide & frame, machining the rough forgings and then final assembly (with fitting if necessary).

The N serial numbers are forged and machined in Brazil and thus bear the Imbel Brazil stamp on the bottom of the dust cover. The NM serial numbers are forged in Brazil, then machined and assembled in the US. Thus, no Brazil markings are present (nor required).

None are completely "made" in Brazil, which is why none bear a "made in Brazil" stamp like a Taurus.

Also Springfield's customer service is excellent compared to Taurus.

The Taurus is made in a plant they bought from Beretta. Not at Imbel. The thing with Taurus is the hit or miss QC and there customer service leaves a lot to be desired.

 

[Hoffy]

I like my blued model. I bought mine to shoot, figuring resale was not an issue.

I shoot bowling pins and targets with mine and it does very well. The figure 8 sights work for me, but some people don't like them. The only break-in issue that I had was the factory mags were a little stiff and the slide took an extra bump when chambering the first round.

The fit and finish on my blued model leaves something to be desired. The bluing is thin and I have some bare metal showing after a year of moderate use. The rear sight needed to be drift adjusted.

If I were going to make this decision again today, I would probably get the stainless steel model for $567 (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_50_495/products_id/17286). If for some reason I had to rule stainless out, I would give a hard loook to the RIA tactical. I've never fired a 1911 without a beavertail. From the checking around I've done on some of the forums, I'm glad my PT1911 came equiped with one.

 

[MCgunner]

Either you like 1911s and buy into the hype, or ya don't. I don't.

 

[Phil DeGraves]

Each ejected the spent shell casing in such a manner as to strike me right in the face.

Maybe you shouldn't be holding it "gangsta style"...

Really, I've never had that problem with ANY of my 1911s. The Colts eject them into the next county.

 

[silent knight]

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Thanks for all the feedback... i had the chance to shoot them both over the weekend and THEY BOTH SHOT WELL. Im just curious how much abuse they can take. Long run. Sorry, when people say i've put 500 rounds through without a problem well, sorry that's just not good enough for me . I've put 6k and some change on my G23 without changing anything (yet) from the blistering heat to the freezing, not one problem (yet).

 

[Darkside852003]

I have a Springfield Light Weight Operator with close to 5k.

No issues or stoppages at all from day one.

I know people with 50k and up on Springfields.

1911's with proper maintance can last several hundred thousand rounds.

Just swap springs when needed and every few K do a good cleaning and inspection on the frame and slide.

ETA: Springfield has an excellent lifetime warranty.

 

[Ske1etor]

Maybe you shouldn't be holding it "gangsta style"...

Really, I've never had that problem with ANY of my 1911s. The Colts eject them into the next county.

I think if he is getting railed in the face by brass all day long he is allowing the gun to torque when fired. Basically the same as someone shooting a .50AE desert eagle and eating brass. The bullet weighs so much that it torques the gun sideways during recoil and the firearm ends up sitting slightly sideways or "Gangsta" style when it ejects. This causes brass to the face.

I say do some wrist exercises and go try another 1911...

 

[gun4funtime]

I shopped aroun for a 1911 for 3 months, I bought a Taurus pt1911. It is great, no problems, I have heard about the saftey problems, I will have one on hand just incase, and still saved a lot of money over the mil spec springfield which all needed work to smooth them out. I would not think twice about buying the pt1911 go for it.

 

[kcshooter]

As others have said, if you get a good Taurus 1911, it's good. If you get a bad one, it's a nightmare, and their customer service is horrible. I don't think they've been around long enough to prove themselves in the long run. For my money, the Springfield MilSpec is the best value on the market. If you want all the unnecessary frills, get the Taurus. If you want reliability and a company that really stands behind their lifetime warranty, go Springfield.
I have a Taurus pt92 which is outstanding, and a Taurus 651 revo that's been great. I'd buy another revolver but with their track record on semiautos, I'd most likely not go down that road.

Brazil is not exactly known for its quality of metal work or machining.

You may want to consider something from the Philippines.

Uhhhh, what???? Are you under the impression that a 1911 from the Philippines is higher quality than an Imbel?

 

[ljnowell]

I know this is resurrecting a long dead one, but I thought I would, as another user contacted me to ask me questions about my PT1911.

I said earlier how great I thought they were. I WAS WRONG. Mine was in my possesion for a reasonably amount of time, it was junk. I had tons of failures including jamming, hammer follow, light primer strikes, total lock up(ILS), safety falling off, mag release breaking, etc. All of this in less than 5k rounds. Though it did perform well for the first 2-3K rounds. After that though, it was anybodys guess what would break or fall off the thing next.

My uncles has fared much better as he only shoots it around 200 rounds a year at most, since he has so many others. He still had the same problems with the hammer and the ambi-safety.