Anyone here a fan of the Beretta 92FS?

[JTQ]

The Beretta has a slide mounted safety and up is "fire", down is "safe" That is the exact opposite on your Taurus.

The Beretta used to have the same configuration as the Taurus, before it became the "F".

 

[rrruuunnn]

I ordered one at my local shop. My bro had one and was very picky. I suppose he chose it because of the grip. Because he orginally liked the glock. I have yet to fire one.

 

[Guillermo]

The Beretta used to have the same configuration as the Taurus

tru dat....Beretta screwed the pooch and made their "safety" work the wrong way

and I cannot imagine a more dangerous situation than having 2 similar feeling guns with opposite controls

 

[benderx4]

Beretta screwed the pooch and made their "safety" work the wrong way

Get yourself a Beretta 92FS like this one and you'll never have to hear these comments again. The safety is in the exact correct place, and it works exactly like your 1911s. Easy on the eyes too! Long live the Steel I.

 

[Guillermo]

Get yourself a Beretta 92FS like this one and you'll never have to hear these comments again

point made

 

[Taurus 617 CCW]

I went from the Beretta 92 to a Glock 19. The Beretta was a nice gun but too big for everyday concealed carry. I know it's possible to conceal it but it's just not practical. I too bought a police trade-in Beretta. Never had a problem with it and it was a very smooth functioning gun.

 

[uh-oh]

Get yourself a Beretta 92FS like this one and you'll never have to hear these comments again. The safety is in the exact correct place, and it works exactly like your 1911s. Easy on the eyes too! Long live the Steel I.

I also shoot a SAO Steel-I. It's a spendy gun if you can find one, but they are built so well, you can't beat it. Mine is a very low serial number example and is put together with every part fitted tightly to the next like my semi-custom 1911s.

 

[Ronsch]

Guillermo,

I use a Fobus Paddle Holster for mine on the hip, and a Galco Miami Classic when carrying under-arm.

 

[Guillermo]

Guillermo,

I use a Fobus Paddle Holster for mine on the hip, and a Galco Miami Classic when carrying under-arm.

Taurus 617...I think that was directed at you

 

[Highland Ranger]

I liked the Inox I bought so much, I bought one in steel. Added a guide rod laser as well. Points naturally, fits the hand, great sights - love them both.

Agree that people with small hands might have issues . . . . .

 

[Triggernosis]

Thanks, Ronsch.

 

[labhound]

Just bought a 92FS INOX this weekend and shot it the first time today. Most accurate gun I own. Grip size is perfect. Recoil is very soft. I personally like the safety/decocker. Best purchase I've ever made. I've enjoyed reading from this board for several months and joined up today! Couldn't resist the chance to talk about the Beretta!

 

[WRGADog]

Beretta 92's are great guns

I have a 92FS Inox and an M9A1 and love them. They are great nightstand guns and range funs, but are too large for CCW.

 

[docsleepy]

I have the taurus 99 (adjustable sights).

The early Beretta was known to break the locking block, the odd little piece of metal inside. A redesigned locking block was done (maybe twice). It is avialable retail for about $75. I changed the one in my Taurus to the Beretta 3rd generation.

It is widely reported that Beretta showed convincingly that the ammo that caused the broken slides (not the locking block) was way way overpressure ammo.... I think they did a demo with tens of thousands of shots and no damage. They did however put in the mmodification, see earlier post by someone who knows more than me about that.

The Beretta design passed all the tests including firing after being in mud. (I have no idea if they were allowed to do any cleaning). It has some interesting features that appear to be designed to make certain it ALWAYS goes bang.

For one, you can wiggle the muzzle a significant amount; it is not tight within the end of the slide. Compare it to a glock and you'll see. The wiggle may disappear during the high pressure of firing, but I have seen "cones" that were placed on the barrel at the muzzle end in an apparent attempt to remedy this. Accurate yes, but I don't think it is the MOST accurate 9mm.

Its a wonderful defensive gun, obviously made to do just what the military wanted. Mine is stainless and should last almost forever.

 

[carbuncle]

I like them, my ex had a stainless model that was a real tack driver. Definitely on my list of future buys.

 

[P.B.Walsh]

I have heard of negitave reports of the open barrel slide about crud getting into the reciver easier than say a 1911.

Is this just hearsay or a fact.

Trying to figure out which 9mm to buy (G17, 92FS, XD, FN9, Sig).

Thanks,
P.B.Walsh

 

[LiveLife]

Trying to figure out which 9mm to buy (G17, 92FS, XD, FN9, Sig).

If you are going to compete in stock form, get the G17.

If not, follow your heart (I shot all of them and like them all - also don't leave out CZ75).

BTW, 92FS comes in 2 grip sizes as I recall.

 

[KurtC]

I have heard of negitave reports of the open barrel slide about crud getting into the reciver easier than say a 1911.

Is this just hearsay or a fact.

Hearsay. The 92 obviously did exceptionally well during the "crud" phase of the XM9 trials, and the Walther P-38 served the Germans well on all fronts.

In all seriousness, it is very difficult to "crud" up the operation of any pistol, as long as the breech is closed when it goes into the crud.

If anything, the open slide allows for the crud to come out easily as well. Sand, dirt and water will eventually work their way into everything. Having an outlet for it once parts start moving is very important.

 

[tomwalshco]

The 92 is one great gun, but if you want simplicity, I'd vote for the Glock. The Beretta is as good a shooter as anything on your list. The open slide thing is a myth, but I've never had one in a muddy, dirty, sandy combat zone, either. The 92 is my favorite range gun and also has the best trigger of anything I've shot. Even my Colt 1911. But mine is well broken in.

 

[Ronsch]

Yep, Guillermo...My bad...

No problem, Triggernosis. I have been using Fobus holsters since I got back from Israel a long time ago, which is where I first picked one up. I have one for a Browning Hi-Power that I got rid of, and it worked very well.

 

[Nick5182]

I bought a 92fs INOX as my first carry gun almost 2 years ago, and still swap between it and my glock 22. I think the trigger on it could be better and I don't like the red dots on the INOX sights, but other than that I love it and will probably never get rid of it.

 

[Mr.Davis]

Most of the gripes you see about the 92FS are people complaining about the cartridge used with the military version (M9). FMJ 9mm ammo isn't the best man stopper, but there's nothing wrong with the gun when you load it with quality SD hollow points.

 

[SharpsDressedMan]

The Taurus is not a clone of the 92. The Beretta has a slide mounted safety and up is "fire", down is "safe" That is the exact opposite on your Taurus.

As far as I know Taurus has never had slides spit and maim the shooter
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The original Beretta 92 had a frame mounted safety...................

 

[Triggernosis]

As far as I know Taurus has never had slides spit and maim the shooter

And as far as I know, there's never been a Taurus that has been subjected to the high round count of overpressured ammo like the Beretta has....

 

[KurtC]

There's lots of internet BS floating around about early slide failures and alleged injuries. Here is an actual NY Times article from 1988 (22 years ago).

Army Reports Problems in Its New Beretta Pistol
AP
Published: May 19, 1988

WASHINGTON, May 18— The Army says it stopped accepting deliveries of its new 9-millimeter Beretta pistol last November because of cracking in the frame and that it is now investigating a second problem involving the gun's slide mechanism.

Beretta U.S.A., a subsidiary of the Italian arms maker Armi Beretta S.p.A., has submitted a plan to deal with the cracking problem and the Army expects to resume accepting deliveries next month, Paul Powell, a spokesman for the Army's Armament, Munitions and Chemical Command, said Tuesday.

However, the Army said it had begun a new test program to determine why two slide bolts on M-9 Berettas cracked while being fired, throwing shards of metal into the chests of the shooters. A similar incident occurred with a nonmilitary Beretta made for commercial sale that was being tested by the Navy.

No one was injured in the three incidents, which occurred late last year and in February, Mr. Powell said.

Col. Richard Williams, the Army manager for the Beretta program, said, ''We don't like the fact that if a slide ever did break it could go back and whack a guy in the face.''

The problems with the pistol were disclosed this week by the trade publication Defense Week and subsequently confirmed by Army officials.

Beretta maintains that the slide failures occurred only after special ammunition was fired.

''U.S. government engineers and technicians have extensively examined the metallurgy, dimensions and manufacturing of the pistol and can find nothing which indicates that the cause of the breakage lies with the weapon,'' the company said.

Mr. Powell disputed that statement in part, saying the Army had not concluded that special ammunition caused the problem. ''We are still running tests to determine the cause of this problem,'' the spokesman said.

Beretta U.S.A., which operates a manufacturing plant in Accokeek, Md., beat out seven competitors in 1985 for the right to provide the 9-millimeter gun to replace the military's venerable Colt .45. The Army, serving as the executive buying agent for all the services, awarded Beretta an initial contract of $75 million for 316,000 pistols. New Competition Set

Mr. Powell said that 109,000 guns were delivered before the suspension of deliveries in November. All told, the spokesman said Beretta would fall about 36,000 pistols behind in its deliveries before shipments resume in June.

Beretta is about to face a Congressionally ordered competition with the Massachusetts gunmaker, Smith & Wesson, a division of the Lear Siegler Diversified Holdings Corporation, and any other interested arms maker for the next 9-millimeter gun contract. Mr. Powell declined to discuss how the production problems might affect Beretta's chances.

The Army said the first problem with the Beretta came to light in November when tests for quality control discovered the pistols could develop hairline cracks on part of the frame. The problem was considered minor and posed no danger to soldiers firing the gun, but the Army had made it clear earlier that it wanted the cracking the problem solved, Mr. Powell said.

The problem involving the slide bolt, which is thrown backward after a shot is fired as part of the process of chambering a new round, came to light in tests by the Navy and Army after delivery of the gun was suspended.

Photo of a Baretta M-9 pistol (AP)

Correction: May 24, 1988, Tuesday, Late City Final Edition Because of an editing error, an article last Thursday about the Beretta pistol misidentified the parent company of a Beretta competitor, Smith & Wesson. It is F. H. Tomkins, a British corporation, which acquired Smith & Wesson in 1987 from the Lear Siegler Holdings Corporation.
A version of this article appeared in print on May 19, 1988, on page A27 of the New York edition.