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What NineseveN said +1
M-Rex said:We have it codified in our law that a felon can have their rights reinstated. I believe there are a few folks who did it, but I will have to dig around a bit to find specific examples.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?WAISdocID=52388510356+14+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve
Hmm...now that I was not aware of. Can you provide chapter and verse?
thatguy said:Lupius- I have never lived in a state where +30 was a felony. That usually requires injury or fleeing from police. What state do you in where speeding can amount to a felony?
Jondar- Criminals who use guns are almost never charged with gun violations. I heard somewhere that only a handful of crooks have been charged under the Brady Law with illegal possession. They pass these laws claiming it's to fight crime but then they don't use them.
Derby FALs- I spoke of a judge clearing the record. The ATF can reinstate gun rights but as you noted they aren't doing it.
I know one guy who is a felon and regular shooter. He's a good man, and I believe he has a right to keep and bear arms, regardless of whether or not he is a "felon."El Tejon said:I know several former felon shooters and I had something to do with the modifier former.
A while ago, I also knew of a federal felon who was not disqualified by the SSA. So, yes, I know of a few shooters who have been convicted of felonies.
Derby FALs said:(A10) Q. How can a person convicted of a felony apply for relief from firearms disabilities? [Back]
A. Under the provisions of the Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA), convicted felons and certain other persons are prohibited from possessing firearms. (See 18 U.S.C. section 922(g).) The GCA provides the Secretary of the Treasury with the authority to grant relief from this disability where the Secretary determines that the person is not likely to act in a manner dangerous to the public safety. (See 18 U.S.C. section 925(c).) The Secretary delegated this authority to ATF.
Since October 1992, however, ATF's annual appropriation has continuously prohibited the expending of any funds to investigate or act upon applications for relief from Federal firearms disabilities. This restriction is located in Pub. L. No. 107-67, 115 Stat. 514, which contains ATF appropriations for fiscal year 2002. As long as this provision is included in current ATF appropriations, the Bureau cannot act upon applications for relief from Federal firearms disabilities submitted by individuals. Consequently, we cannot entertain any individual's request for firearms restoration while this prohibition on the processing of such applications remains in place.
Furthermore, the restriction contained in Pub. L. No. 107-67 does not change the status of prohibited persons. They are still prohibited from possessing, receiving, transporting, or shipping firearms under Federal law.
Molon Labe said:I know one guy who is a felon and regular shooter. He's a good man, and I believe he has a right to keep and bear arms, regardless of whether or not he is a "felon."
When new people come to shoot on our property, I always tell them, "If you're a felon, I don't want to know. Keep it to yourself."
klover said:we are going shooting
Joey2 said:I 'll not mention the state or name , but he is a very good friend of mine. He did 5 yrs. for 2d degree murder. He is very small in stature and was attacked by a very big man. To make a long story short my friend broke a pool cue over the table and stabbed the other guy in the throat.
He was on parole and we went shooting togather. He had a .357 Colt SA, .45 Colt, 30-30 Marlin, etc.
I don't know if he bought it after he got out under the table or owned them before he got into trouble.
I did not and do not care because he is not a threat to society. He has a right to the 2d Amendment just like us.
He was a tunnel rat in Vietnam with the 1st Inf. Div. He earned his rights.
He also murdered someone by stabbing him in the throat with a broken pool cue, and made the choice to give them up.
Carlos said:Who attacked whom? M-Rex, you are straight by the book, eh, no moving any way, just blindly follow, no logic, just blind faith. Correct?
Looks like the guy defends himself, does his time, and you're still coming up with gems like, "and made the choice to give them up." Yes, I'm sure that was the first thing on his mind as a gorilla was going after him.
I also really liked the one about all felons should stay in jail. Glad you're not in charge. I sure hope you read some of the other circumstances that can cause one to become a felon.
Keep up the good work.
Joey2 said:M-Rex,
He was minding his own business. The guy he killed was banned from the pool hall for picking fights on numerous occsions.
My friend weighed about 130 lbs. and stands maybe 4' 10". He minds his own business and has never started any trouble with anybody.
Married with 2 children and a hard worker. Never been in trouble before.
This guy was going to kill him, he defended himself.
...and the criminal justice system is widely known for it's absolute infallibility.M-Rex said:However, a jury of his peers decided otherwise based on the evidence presented.
That may be true. However, a jury of his peers decided otherwise based on the evidence presented. Sorry. I'm not buying it.
NineseveN said:OJ Simpson's peers found him not guilty, what's your point? Juries don't make mistakes? Lawyers don't get beat and innocent people don't suffer for it. You cling to the law when it suits you...tell me again where it says in the USC that a free person can forfeit their inalienable rights permanently...
Thanks.