Are firearms important enough for you to move?

[ddc]

Yes. California is out. Along with New York, Mass., Illinois, and others as well.

 

[Nugilum]

Yes I would.

 

[bonza]

Sturmgewehr667 said:

when i retire, i plan to leave the country

Interesting statement, where are you considering moving to?

 

[Byron Quick]

Yes, I'd move. My state is largely ok with guns. There are definitely states I would not move to but the states I would move to is not just for guns, it's for the overall culture of freedom.

 

[ThrottleJockey]

Yes I would move. But the true nature of the Montana legislature is being overlooked. Upon examination of said bill, I discovered that it is only inclusive of firearms and ammunition MANUFACTURED IN MONTANA and labeled as such. This bill is a good thing, but it's primary intent in no secret, to attract manufacturers and jobs to Montana.
http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/2009/billhtml/HB0246.htm

 

[Winston_Smith]

Yes, I have done it in the past and I will do it again. Right now AZ and MT are looking pretty good.

 

[Little_Bigman]

Question, when we retreat from states with more restrictive gunlaws and essentially concede defeat to the antis, are we helping or hurting the cause?

What happens when we all live in Vermont, Alaska, Montana, Wyoming & Idaho and the rest of the country is monolithically anti?

PS the above isn't meant to be a difinative list, if I didn't mention your state I appologize.

 

[ThrottleJockey]

Little Bigman, what happens? We begin strategically planning our "come back", as then and only then will we know exactly where all the pieces are on the board.

 

[Kentucky]

Well I'm relocating to AK for a couple of reasons.

One of which is more relaxed 2A Rights. While WA is not quite NY, it has irritated me sufficiently to make me want to leave, I don't expect that WA will be quite as 2A friendly in the next 3-5 years as it is now. And Like TR said 2A is a very effective litmus.

AK has no CCP (although you can get one, if you want to use it in another state). Open Carry is ok (where I'll be its positively encouraged, for self protection). Best of all though I'm unincorporated, without any property taxes. The Lands mine bought and paid for 80 acres, wooded, no real zoning restrictions, other than common sense (keep you Septic away from your well). Costs of "stuff" like TV's, Fridges etc. might be slightly higher than Seattle but it's my early retirement and I can survive on a subsistence license (if we qualify) for Hunting Fishing and Trapping, while my wife tries her hand at growing things. Money wise, I can make as much or as little as I want as long as I have Satellite Internet, and people who need contract software developers. Overall we look like we're going to drop our annual expenditure by 90% to living in WA. Which goes a long way to making it mostly ideal. Add in the Permanent Fund Dividend, and it's a done deal.

Sounds like you will be living the dream for sure! I would be very interested in hearing how things work out for you. If you have a chance to PM me I would appreciate it.

Opposite for me; I'm here already and don't plan to move

Very cool, were you born there or have you relocated? Wife and I are planning to come out at the end of this month and I am applying for some jobs in various parts of the state.

 

[GRIZ22]

I'd like to but business, family, etc prevent it. Not only my business but the rest of the family businesses.

 

[Doc_Jude]

Are firearms important enough for you to move?

Yes. Curiously, I take ALL of my inalienable rights seriously, even those that may cause some measure of discomfort in pantywaist libs.
I'm moving to Arizona or Nevada (from Kalifornistan) as soon as I'm done with school and family situations permit.

 

[DocBoCook]

Yup, I live in VA now. But home is Indiana. The GF and I broke up because she wanted to move to unfriendly states and I wanted to go home. (though I wish they would give back the ability to hunt deer with a rifle)

 

[coloradokevin]

Well, I can't say I'd move out of Colorado if the laws changed tomorrow, but I've certainly picked my states based on gun laws in the past!

I was lucky enough to be born and raised in OH, then had the opportunity to pursue my mountain dreams out here in CO... both areas with fairly relaxed gun laws. However, I long ago decided that I would not ever move to CA, MD, DC, NY, et al, due to their ridiculous laws!

 

[Davek1977]

AS a lifelong resident of South Dakota, I've never seriously pondered the issue. However, yes, if SD started down the road California is on, I'd be packing my bags....but only after it was a done deal. I'd stay and fight for my rights until it was pointless to do so. I honestly don't see state gun control laws ever gaining much momentum in this state, thank God.

 

[scalhoun]

I turned down an international assignment in Perth, Australia last year and the inability to own a gun over there was partly to blame for my decision.

 

[mongo4567]

Yes, I would avoid a move if the destination didn't have concealed carry or reasonable gun laws. I would also move if the place I live adopted restrictive laws. Luckily I'm in Texas: I think we would secede before accept restrictive gun laws.

 

[Intrepid Dad]

As my wife and I consider places to retire, gun rights will be one of the top factors we consider. So, yeah, it's important.

 

[statelineblues]

Originally posted by gripper:

If I could get work there,I'd go....hell;I left Massachusetts for NH partially because of that.

Me too - finally got out of NJ after 19 years and moved back to CT. Not the best state for gun laws, but anywhere (other than CA) is better than NJ!

 

[Mousegun]

I too bailed from N.J. and continue to follow their restrictive legislation as it gets worse and worse.

I feel for my friends there who are very active pistol shooters. We fortunately had an indoor range in our town that we took care of and could shoot in every week.

The laws are becoming super restrictive and the Dem goment is constantly making them harder.

I moved to Tennessee and after being here a while I see where it is all relative. I am actively writing various legislators to get rid of a lot of butt head laws here in this state too.

 

[mgkdrgn]

Firearms laws alone were not the reason I moved (2.5 years ago) from the Baltimore-DC area to South Carolina ... but they were one of the multitude of reasons.

 

[taliv]

i moved from columbus, OH to TN 5 years ago because of taxes and the columbus AWB

 

[Cybercop]

I was offered a job in Chicago making 2.5 times my current salary, During the interview they stated that I would be "on call" for emergencies and needed to live within 20 miles of the city limits. You could have heard a pin drop when I turned them down and told them why! They tried to argue that these were reasonable and fair laws and they just didn't understand why I didn't see that. Needless to say I didn't just burn that bridge ..... I nuked it!

BTW: I was approached by them, I wasn't looking for another employer.

Jim

 

[CoRoMo]

Without a doubt, yes.
I'd imagine that if my state becomes less gun friendly, it would also have adopted many other politically liberal issues that would make me crawl out of my skin. I'd say that in fact Colorado is already doing the later, but continues to be gun friendly.

If Colorado moves further to the left, I'll gladly move to Wyoming, Utah, Montana, or maybe even Idaho. I've talked to my wife about it already, but we don't really think it would come to that.

 

[Duke of Doubt]

Cybercop: "I was offered a job in Chicago making 2.5 times my current salary, During the interview they stated that I would be "on call" for emergencies and needed to live within 20 miles of the city limits. You could have heard a pin drop when I turned them down and told them why!"

Chicago city limits extend to the Indiana state line; you could have lived in Indiana. But you would have had to commute. And, you would have had to live in Northwest Indiana.

I grew up in Chicago and began practicing in Chicago. When Daley II really started to go nuts back in 1996 (not just guns -- blowing up Meigs Field with planes on the runway, declaring war on chain link fences in favor of his friend's wrought iron fences, putting trees in the LaSalle Street canyon, putting grass on the roofs, building a gigantic monument to himself where Grant Park used to be, etc.) I moved away. Keep in mind that attorneys must be licensed in each state in which they practice, and in many cases, including mine, that means taking the bar examination all over again (waiver and reciprocity is not always available). I did that when I moved to the DC area and practiced in the District (old rule on time limits), and again when I finally moved to a gun-friendly state (no reciprocity).

I routinely get opportunities in cesspools like DC, NY, LA, and Chicago, and turn down every one. At this point, I'm not surrendering my right to defend myself to satisfy some liberal's ignorant sensibilities. I don't have to. My freedom and my life are not for sale.

 

[MachIVshooter]

Hippies with guns

I'd imagine that if my state becomes less gun friendly, it would also have adopted many other politically liberal issues that would make me crawl out of my skin. I'd say that in fact Colorado is already doing the later, but continues to be gun friendly.

CO's political climate has always been very strange. That can be seen clearly in this election, where the state went blue for the first time in decades, but had the largest upsurge of firearms sales in the country. We have the largest group of independent voters as well.

People out here tend to be very pro-fitness and environmentally conscientious, but often very conservative when it comes to personal freedom. What this results in is an incredibly diverse group of gun owners. Unfortunately, a large percentage of them do not place RKBA issues very high on their list of voting priorities.

Nonetheless, even after two years of democratic rule in the executive and legislative branches of the state, we are governed only by federal firearms laws, save the "gunshow loophole" law that was passed immediately following Columbine (knock on wood). Ritter has been a classic flaming liberal on every issue, but he's been smart enough to leave the guns alone.