This is something I have been saying to my "Democrat" family members in the hope that the more educated they are the less spirited they are.
I hear people throw out "background" checks and then wave their hand as if it is an extremely easy and simple solution that all of us our nuts for opposing. This, more or less, is my response. Not to change minds, but to bring up some serious potential wrinkles with that line of thought.
I am not sure if you guys have thought about it, or need some ammo, or have a critique, but I would like to hear what you think.
I hear people throw out "background" checks and then wave their hand as if it is an extremely easy and simple solution that all of us our nuts for opposing. This, more or less, is my response. Not to change minds, but to bring up some serious potential wrinkles with that line of thought.
I am not sure if you guys have thought about it, or need some ammo, or have a critique, but I would like to hear what you think.
There is a real danger here in passing a Universal Background check law that ends up making more criminals, out of previously “law abiding” people, and solving no problems. Suppose [the Moderator] has never been Elk hunting, he has small caliber rifles only, so I loan him a larger caliber rifle. Do I need to run a background check? Right now, the FFL's run those and they charge anywhere from $25.00 - $100.00 per gun to do a background check, but I am just letting him “borrow” the gun right? Actually since it is in his “custody” a background check will needed. How does that work between husbands and wives? If my wife is carrying a gun that I bought, is there a chance I could get arrested?
The “no fly” list has approx. 2,000,000 names on it. No one is sure how you get on the list and there is no way to get off. Once you are on the list, you are on the list. We have all heard the story of Senators and children ending up on the no-fly list, we do not want that to happen to the mental health index, or it will not work properly and fail in its purpose. What appeals process is their going to be for the mental health index? Is it going to be another government system that takes years to decide nothing? What about domestic violence? I have a few friends who have gotten divorced and their wives’ has filed protective orders against the guys though there is no history of violence. It is, in fact, completely common to do that in divorces, or so I am told by lawyers I know. There are of course cases of real abuse though… So again, we are denying someone their civil rights, it is not a small matter.
Further, what do we do with people that are trying to purchase guns that are on the criminal or mental health lists? If we do nothing, just deny them, then there is a chance that they will get the guns by other means. We need to have a system that responds to denials from the list. Then what do we do? Interviewing them will not stop anything, maybe in some cases, but we really should lock them up of commit them…
So we have just gutted the Constitution/Bill of Rights... And for what? A solution that everyone admits will solve nothing.
Drug dealers and criminals cannot sue people in court for non-payment on a dime bag. They cannot call the police when someone breaks into their house and steals their meth and file an insurance claim. Guns are the cost of doing business, so even if they cost $100,000 the drug dealers will buy them.
Faced with such an onslaught on liberties and our culture it is better to do as the NRA said and hire some armed guards and then implement a mental health index and criminal list and ensure a fair and speedy appeals process and leave it at that.