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Black bear hunt sidearm

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by LittleLebowski, Sep 28, 2006.

  1. Ok, so I'm going on a black bear hunt in Idaho (b-day present from my brother,we're going together) and I'm trying to figure out the whole sidearm question. Have rifle questions, will post those elsewhere.

    I already own a .45 Uberti Bisley. Would that be sufficient with maybe some hot .45 LC loads? I'm eyeing a .44 Mag 4" ported Taurus Tracker....

    Appreciate your input.
  2. Hawken50

    Hawken50 Well-Known Member

    i am no expert, but i've read hot .45lc loads get pretty close to factory 44mag power. so i would think you'd be allright with that.

    however, if you're worried the bears will be able to tell the diffrence, (i.e. looking for an excuse to buy a new gun) i have the Taurus of which you speak think it would fit the bill very nicely.
  3. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Personally, I regard the .44 magnum as the bare bones minimum hand gun caliber in bear country.
  4. I'd be using a 30-30 with the new Hornady ammo so I figured might as well have a potent sidearm...
  5. mnrivrat

    mnrivrat Well-Known Member

    .45 Long Colt should do just fine on black bears, even without getting into real hot stuff.

    I also have that Taurus .44 Mag Tracker and I am fond of it , so if you go that way you can have a new gun !

    Good luck - I have taken black bear with 30-30 as well with no problem.
  6. MCgunner

    MCgunner Well-Known Member

    .357 with heavy loads is plenty for black bear, but I'd carry my .45 Colt Blackhawk with heavy 300 grain loads. I would NOT shoot those loads in a Uberti!!!!! Don't get real hot in any Colt clone, the gun won't take it. My handloads are for Ruger Blackhawk/TC Contender ONLY! They are indeed the equal of any .44 magnum factory stuff. I don't know if they'd frag a Uberti, but I wouldn't wanna find out. At the very least, they'd pound it into worthlessness in short order.

    If you can get a load firing a 255 grain cast bullet at around 900 fps, it'd be enough gun to carry for what you are doing on black bears. You're actually hunting with the rifle, after all. I think you'd really like that Tracker, though. :D
  7. gunhappy

    gunhappy Well-Known Member

    I hunt black bears in NY. The sidearm I always carry is my blackhawk stoked w/ 210 gr SJSP Remingtons. I don't feel at all undergunned w/this combo.
    I don't however, reccommend this for the bigger breed of bears, ie:Mr. Grizz.
  8. Dang, I thought my Uberti might do the trick. The Tracker is tempting....
  9. MCgunner

    MCgunner Well-Known Member

    Even if your Uberti could handle hot loads like I use, I have two loads I shoot in my Ruger. One's that 255 grain flat point at 900 fps and the other is the 300 grain bullet shy of 1200 fps. The difference in elevation adjustment between the two loads is rather dramatic. My elevation screw on the Blackhawk is marked for either load. With a fixed sight gun, that's not a good situation. You'd be shootin' the trees over his back. :D
  10. You guys are convincing me that a new .44 mag is essential to my health and well being (just not my bank account's ;))

    Anybody think a Smith is worth $200-400 more than the Taurus Tracker?
  11. ETXhiker

    ETXhiker Well-Known Member

    Wow, dude, the jury is in.You HAVE to buy a new gun. Just tell the wife we all voted on it and it's the law.
  12. Hah! No wife yet. Just a wife-to-be. And she doesn't mind anyway.

    Here's a curve ball. How about a Taurus in the same config without porting? Less blast, noise, etc...
  13. wuchak

    wuchak Well-Known Member

    Anybody think a Smith is worth $200-400 more than the Taurus Tracker?

    Yes. I have a titanium tracker with 4" barrel in .357 that has to go back for the third time for a new cylinder due to flamecutting on the face. This last time it started with the 3rd shot fired after the last fix. I really, really, really, liked this gun but I am disappointed in it and wish I had spent the extra to get the S&W Mountain-lite like my friend bought at the same time and has never had a problem with, not to mention the S&W trigger is MUCH better. After this trip back I'll have spent close to the original price difference between them in shipping. The Taurus has spent about 5 months of its life back with Taurus during which time it's of course useless to me. "Hey Mr. robber, can you please wait until after Taurus returns my gun to break into my house?"

    One other thing is that the Taurus Trackers, at least in .357 have much have shorter cylinders than the comparable S&W models. This is limiting when using heavy grain bullets. The Cor-bon 200 grain .357's are almost flush with the end of the cylinder. If one of them were to shift at all in the case due to recoil it would lock up the gun.

    I think you'll also find resale on the Smith will be much higher.
  14. I just hate that "Mountain Gun" lettering on the barrel. I can afford a Smith, just was looking forward to tuning up the Taurus since I subcribe to the WECSOG school :D
  15. Deanimator

    Deanimator Well-Known Member

    A 29-2, pinned and recessed certainly is. I've got two, a 4" having a new barrel installed at S&W, and a 6" that I bought two weeks ago.
  16. Just took a look at 29-2 prices. Never mind on that, I don't want to spend that much on this. Upper price limit of $700
  17. Looking at a brand new 639 stainless 44mag 4" N frame for about $630. Thoughts?
  18. Jhaislet

    Jhaislet Well-Known Member

    I'm also in the market for a bear gun (although for backpacking), and am leaning heavily towards a S&W 329PD (27oz .44Mag).
  19. Essex County

    Essex County Well-Known Member

    In my area SuperBlackhawks are abundent and

    quite reasonable. Get yourself a shoulder holster and be happy.....Essex
  20. I thought about the lightweight models. Seemed like it would be too lightweight to enjoy.

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