Over a million cross our border illegaly every year, most mexican. No way I'm wrong. Even Stevie Wonder can see that. Can you?
Biker, I didn't say you wrong on the fact that many from south of our borders are illegally crossing annually. I said perhaps you're wrong that the majority of them are anti-American and want to change your life and this country. Maybe that's a difficult concept to understand, but the concepts are not mutually exclusive.
1) Guy throwing rocks? I wasn't there, but it's stupid and dangerous to throw rocks at a person armed with a firearm.
2) Do we have a control issue with our southern border? Obviously.
3) Is the best way to deal with that control issue to act like a bunch of fascists and suggest that
anyone (women, children, whatever) crossing our borders should be shot? Probably not.
I think that those who honestly want to fix the problem while respecting the concepts of freedom supposedly so respected in this nation need to distance themselves from the "trash" spewing hatred of a loud minority of right (maybe too far) leaning individuals. It will only enhance your position.
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There is a very small minority of Mexicans that are in the country illegally that advocate portions of the US being transferred back to Mexico by force. They should be dealt with. You can deny they exist all you want your ignorance doesn't mean they doesn't exist.
"Very small minority". I sure hope you weren't implying my comments by claiming someone ignorant denied these folks exist. Of course they do, simple bell curve reality of human expression. I am saying exactly what you are saying -- these anti-American people are a small minority, and making it sound like every latino is out to undermine our nation will only lead to worse issues, such as the previously mentioned attacks on American citizens of hispanic origin.
One more time. The answer to this problem is not to act like a fascist. The answer is very complicated, of course. It includes border control, business control, and a bit of knowledge. For instance can anyone here really say what impact, good or bad, the influx of "undocumented workers" is having on our economy? Until there is hard data to claim one way or another, any such claims are purely speculative and most likely purely political in nature.
We will only shoot ourselves in the foot if we throw out those who are helping this nation. I know here in Little Rock many neighborhoods that were horrible before the Mexicans moved in. They salaved many areas where the rich whites had fled and the poor folks had given up. Okay, many are "criminals", just like everyone who drank a beer during prohibition. Like Biker said, we're all "criminals", who doesn't break a minor law one way or another every day? Or do none of you folks who hate "criminals" speed? Just because there is a law there doesn't mean the law is just or working properly.
Do I think we need open borders? Of course not. We need thoughtful, useful plans that will preserve what this country stands for and will allow that opportunity to those who want to make it even better, no matter where they come from.
