Building a M14 on an Armscorp Receiver?

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David Wile

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Builoding an M14 On An Armscorp Receiver?

Hey folks,

A few days ago I got information on buying an M14 from West Texas Ordnance. For $1,100 plus $25 shipping, he will build what sounds like a very good rack grade M14 on an Armscorp receiver with all USGI parts. For about $40 more, he will use a new barrel instead of a GI barrel.

Then I thought of a local fellow who has been doing M1 Garand work for quite a few years, and I wondered if he might also be doing work on M14s. When I called him and told him about my interest in building an M14 on an Armscorp receiver, his response was that Armscorp receivers are junk and that I should only build one on a Springfield Armory receiver. He claimed that some of the Armscorp receivers are not machined to the same specs and that he then has to do additional machining on them. First he said "many" of the receivers were that way, and later he said "about half" of the Armscorp receiver were bad and half were good.

While I value his opinions and knowledge on such things, it seems to me that I should get some more information before I reject the Armscorp receiver out of hand. If I were to buy a receiver and all the USGI parts and have an M14 built, I would certainly have confidence that he would do a good job building it. I have watched him work on M1s, and he is a good technician, but I am not so confident in his assessment of Armscorp receivers.

Accordingly, I would like to solicit comments from the folks here about the use of an Armscorp or a Springfield Armory receiver and the expected cost of them. I have an FFL, so I can actualy purchase a receiver wherever it is prudent to do so.

I would also like to clarify some issues between the SA and Armscorp receivers concerning the basics. Am I correct in thinking the SA receiver is a casting that is then milled? Is the Armscorp receiver a forging that is milled? Does it really matter? Also concerning the Armscorps receiver, what is the difference and/or advantages to the choices they offer concerning the lugs on their receivers? They offer a USGI type with no lugs, one with a single lug, and one with two lugs. What is the difference in these and what does it mean to the end user?

I have already seen two favorable comments in another thread about the rifles produced by West Texas Ordnance on Armscorp receivers, and I personally talked to the owner, Clayton Smith. He seemed to be very knowledgeable and a person one could have confidence in. He also uses the no lug Armscorp receiver which looks just like the USGI receiver.

Best wishes,
Dave Wile
 
I have four rifles build upon the Armscorp reciever.....never had anything go wrong....all built with US GI parts...

however, I did have them checked out by a qualified Armourer before I started shooting them....


I have had Federal Ordinance and some Chinese recievers....

I had trouble with all of them


IMHO, the troubles I had...YOU may not......


out..
 
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Springfield armory is the receiver that has to be modified to take the GI parts,and Im not sure but I think the armscorp receiver is forged or there is a company who does make a forged one.I think armscorp is better springfield quality is slacking off.
 
a good M14/M1A gunsmith

I have an Armscorp receiver that I would like to have built into a M14/M1A.

Who is a good smith to build one? I hear that Fulton Armory is good, but their prices are kinda high. Hey, if they do good work and stand behind it, it's worth it!

USamory.com used to sell a M14 USGI parts kit for $700. All it needed was a receiver in order to have it built into a fully functional firearm. However, they don't sell the parts kit anymore.
 
When I was in the market for an M14-type rifle...

I came face-to-face with one of the worst examples of Springfield quality assurance, a receiver that was out-of-square, had a paper-thin right oprod rail, and the rear sight detents were barely cut.

The Armscorp receiver was considerably better in fit, finish, and dimensions. I've never regretted my choice. I used an H&R parts M14 to build it, with a Krieger barrel.

Could Springfield, Inc. produce a lemon every now and then? Sure. I witnessed one of them. Could Armscorp do the same? Probably. But I'll stay with my Armscorp M14NM long before I ever buy a Springfield M1A, that's for certain.

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In the early '90's when I visited the factory south of Baltimore, they were finish milling forged receivers at their facility.
I was a young teenager then, so I don't recall too many details, but I know that they were American made, forged (they sure didn't look like castings when they went in) and then auto-milled to finish. I saw receivers from the time they went into the milling machines, till they came out. Very impressive.
 
Anyone have a picture of the markings on the heel of the Armscorp receiver?

Where is the best place to buy them....or can you only order them from Armscorp?
 
One thing about Springfield is that they seem to vary their casting foundries (it's subcontracted out) so there is no consistency as far as I can tell.
 
The statement made by your TX "gunsmith" sounds questionable to me, seems to me he has a "special interest" in Springfield brand receivers. Go to Armscorp's web site. I believe any doubts you may have because of "expert" opinions will be satisfied and you will opt for Armscorp. Often times (and the last I heard) Armscorp is unable to supply receivers due to the high demand. Last I checked they offered 3 different models, all NM with various setups for the locking lugs. I have owned two different brands of M1A/M14's and I will not make a blanket statement such as your gunsmithing "expert":uhoh: but my Armscorp M14 (rack grade) interchanges parts just fine and exceeds all MY expectations. Regardless of which receiver you opt for, I'd stay away from that TX "expert". His motives may be different than yours.:scrutiny:
 
Isn't Entreprise Arms also producing M14 receivers? I know nothing about them, but that could be another option.
 
What I'd like to hear is from a gunsmith who has all the gauges and can tell us what is mil-spec and what is paperweight.
 
I'm a gunsmith and I built about 20 rifles on armscorp receivers in the past month. All of them were completely perfect. I cant say the same about all the rest. Fulton receivers, made by armscorp are great and so are enterprise when you can get one. I haven't done many of them but from prior experience I can say they were fine. I have only built one smith but it was perfect too.
I like armscorp a lot though and they are the ones I just chose to make my receivers. We just started selling them and are putting in our first order early next week for the WTA receivers 0001-0010.

Armscorp quality has done nothing but impress me over the past several months.
 
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