I didn't really intend to come off as flippant with my remark about not telling every one - perhaps it read that way. I can understand that the spouse or family members might give you a hard time. My wife has asked on a couple of occasions why I carried at church (which in Texas you are allowed to do so long as it isn't posted 30.06). I reminded her that just because we're in church doesn't mean we're safe from a nutcase walking in (i.e., Wedgwood Baptist in Fort Worth - 1999). As others have stated here, you never know when you might need it (hopefully NEVER) just like you never know when you might need that seat belt (which is my standard short answer). Most in Texas don't make a big deal about CHLs. I carry all the time where its legal, even if just going to town to get an ice cream at the Sonic.
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Jonah71
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I can only recall leaving the house one time since getting my CCW. I'm in my office at church right now. I have a Kahr .40 IWB. Yes, I carry concealed at church, although not when behind the pulpit. And for anyone that may question my lack of faith, my only response is, "I have faith that God will give me the neccessary accuracy if needed."
mwcharger
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Sorry it took me so long to reply , anyway I never tell them I'm carrying but they know I have my ccw.
I'm only 21 so at times I may stay at my parents house for a few weeks at a time while on break from school. The problem is more or less they keep hassling me about carrying it and they think I will get myself into trouble. I'm a criminal justice major so I know the laws pretty well but my family still says I don't need to carry it around.
It's kinda messed up IMO .
I'm only 21 so at times I may stay at my parents house for a few weeks at a time while on break from school. The problem is more or less they keep hassling me about carrying it and they think I will get myself into trouble. I'm a criminal justice major so I know the laws pretty well but my family still says I don't need to carry it around.
It's kinda messed up IMO .
People get bent out of shape about others choosing to concealed carry for several common reasons:
1) It makes them confront the reality that the world is a potentially deadly place. This is a wildly abstract and acutely uncomfortable fact for the average person.
One side effect of living in a relatively safe nation is that some think violence is something that only happens to "other people". They forget that we're all "other people" to someone else.
These folks will wear seatbelts to protect against auto accidents, purchase flood or earthquake coverage, and wash their hands religiously to avoid MRSA, but scoff at the potential need for a firearm.
It's cognitive dissonance at its worst, but there's not really much you can do about it other than holding your ground.
2) Fear of the unknown makes the average person relatively fearful of firearms. They may literally feel unsafe around you because they know being near you means they're near a gun.
Exposure is the only fix for this, but as we all know, that's easier said than accomplished.
1) It makes them confront the reality that the world is a potentially deadly place. This is a wildly abstract and acutely uncomfortable fact for the average person.
One side effect of living in a relatively safe nation is that some think violence is something that only happens to "other people". They forget that we're all "other people" to someone else.
These folks will wear seatbelts to protect against auto accidents, purchase flood or earthquake coverage, and wash their hands religiously to avoid MRSA, but scoff at the potential need for a firearm.
It's cognitive dissonance at its worst, but there's not really much you can do about it other than holding your ground.
2) Fear of the unknown makes the average person relatively fearful of firearms. They may literally feel unsafe around you because they know being near you means they're near a gun.
Exposure is the only fix for this, but as we all know, that's easier said than accomplished.
I have mixed feelings about whether to tell or not. I'm proud that America has the 2A. But I also know there is a lot of antigun sentiment.
My practice so far has been as follows:
My practice so far has been as follows:
- At work: I do not tell. The Human Resources manager mentioned to me that one of my colleagues is a "gun nut". Probably better for my career if I am not similarly labeled.
- Close family: They all know. All disapprove except my adult son who loves to go shooting with me. Disapproval based on their belief that I will sooner or later shoot myself or some burglar will turn one of my guns against me (words fail me...).
- Friends living locally but not immediate neighbors: Have told one person.
- Acquantances in the UK: I'm from the UK and have told lots of acquaintances there about my CHL and shown them pictures of my arsenal. They all enjoying hearing about it, they pump me for details, and are just amazed that such things are legal in the USA. They all seem to get a vicarious thrill out of discussing guns in detail with me, knowing that every weapon I own is banned in the UK (you can't even carry pepper spray there). Maybe they call me a "gun nut" behind my back but it doesn't matter.
- Neighbors: Told one family. They invited me to dinner and they brought the subject up in a somewhat disapproving way and I said I was a supporter of the 2A, whereupon they all changed their tune a little bit. Maybe all my neigbors know now but I don't really care. As far as I am concerned, it's legal and respectable.
oldfool
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I can understand the 'new to CCW" guy, and it's a bit harsh to lay all that well intentioned advice on him, some acclimation period is really not that unusual
still...
" is is possible to overdo it ?"
yes, of course it is (if you are doing it for the wrong reasons)
no, of course not, (if doing it for the right reasons)
but it's not up for a vote, you qualified for the permit, only you get to choose
it is not your job to convince anyone that disagrees that it is "ok", and that you are "ok"
there is no need to seek approval, you already have the only approval that counts
also pay no attention to those who say "ye must at all times, lest ye be an idiot/victim", either
because they don't get a vote, either, and they are not even close family
a lot of people in my family have CCW permits, sometimes we do (carry), sometimes we don't, but we feel no need to take a survey, nor ask permission, nor preach to anyone about it.. we don't even ask one another, because we respect one another enough to not ask
real close family who make it real plain they don't want you to carry in their home
well don't do that, and don't lie about it or hide it, either, make a choice, respect their castle, and either stay out, or leave the gun out
6 billion people on this planet, you are lucky if you have just six that truly care about you; you have to respect that at least as much as you respect yourself
and you really should 'worry' about that, at least as much as you worry about you
'educate' them, read 'em text from gun forum boards ?
no
if that would convince them, you would have no need of such arguments in the first place, preaching to the choir, don't kid yourself
teach by example, not arguments.. if they know you like you believe they do know you, they will learn to respect THAT, whether or not they ever agree with words or not
talk is cheap, people worth caring about never are
yes, I do believe that concealed means concealed
but there is a difference between the other 6 billion and your own six
you don't have to push it up their noses, so don't
but you don't conceal truth from the few close ones that really matter
you just learn how to respect one another
guns, or politics, or religion, no difference
but you already knew that, else you would not be asking
the only new thing here is the gun, really, no kidding
(it might feel different, because it's a new/different experience, but that is temporary)
still...
" is is possible to overdo it ?"
yes, of course it is (if you are doing it for the wrong reasons)
no, of course not, (if doing it for the right reasons)
but it's not up for a vote, you qualified for the permit, only you get to choose
it is not your job to convince anyone that disagrees that it is "ok", and that you are "ok"
there is no need to seek approval, you already have the only approval that counts
also pay no attention to those who say "ye must at all times, lest ye be an idiot/victim", either
because they don't get a vote, either, and they are not even close family
a lot of people in my family have CCW permits, sometimes we do (carry), sometimes we don't, but we feel no need to take a survey, nor ask permission, nor preach to anyone about it.. we don't even ask one another, because we respect one another enough to not ask
real close family who make it real plain they don't want you to carry in their home
well don't do that, and don't lie about it or hide it, either, make a choice, respect their castle, and either stay out, or leave the gun out
6 billion people on this planet, you are lucky if you have just six that truly care about you; you have to respect that at least as much as you respect yourself
and you really should 'worry' about that, at least as much as you worry about you
'educate' them, read 'em text from gun forum boards ?
no
if that would convince them, you would have no need of such arguments in the first place, preaching to the choir, don't kid yourself
teach by example, not arguments.. if they know you like you believe they do know you, they will learn to respect THAT, whether or not they ever agree with words or not
talk is cheap, people worth caring about never are
yes, I do believe that concealed means concealed
but there is a difference between the other 6 billion and your own six
you don't have to push it up their noses, so don't
but you don't conceal truth from the few close ones that really matter
you just learn how to respect one another
guns, or politics, or religion, no difference
but you already knew that, else you would not be asking
the only new thing here is the gun, really, no kidding
(it might feel different, because it's a new/different experience, but that is temporary)
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DustyVermonter
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I still maintain the whole "its better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it" line of reason.
Why would you leave yourself vulnerable in a world where people kill each other for no good reason if you don't need to? To avoid offending somebody's delicate sensibilities? Nope, not me.
I had this lady I used to work with tell me (as if she was the world foremost authority) that she would prefer it if I left my gun at home. I explained to her that it was my choice to carry a gun just as much as it is her choice not to, and that whether or not I left my gun home or had it on my person was none of her concern.
I also told her that I didn't really appreciate her eavesdropping on my conversations as she would have never known about the fact that I was carrying had she not been standing right around the corner listening intently to a conversation I was having with a fellow co-worker out on break.
I think she tried to raise a stink about it to our boss in the office and then dropped it when she realized that there was nothing she could do about it except quit if she really had that much of a problem with it.
She was a busybody that was always on the lookout for any reason to go into the office and tell mangement what she was and was not "comfortable" with, I'm sure folks here may know the type.
Why would you leave yourself vulnerable in a world where people kill each other for no good reason if you don't need to? To avoid offending somebody's delicate sensibilities? Nope, not me.
I had this lady I used to work with tell me (as if she was the world foremost authority) that she would prefer it if I left my gun at home. I explained to her that it was my choice to carry a gun just as much as it is her choice not to, and that whether or not I left my gun home or had it on my person was none of her concern.
I also told her that I didn't really appreciate her eavesdropping on my conversations as she would have never known about the fact that I was carrying had she not been standing right around the corner listening intently to a conversation I was having with a fellow co-worker out on break.
I think she tried to raise a stink about it to our boss in the office and then dropped it when she realized that there was nothing she could do about it except quit if she really had that much of a problem with it.
She was a busybody that was always on the lookout for any reason to go into the office and tell mangement what she was and was not "comfortable" with, I'm sure folks here may know the type.
Everyone in my immediate family knows I always carry. There are people in my extended family who probably assume I am carrying, but they never ask, and I don't advertise it. There are people in my extended family who have no clue. I have LEO/detective friends who would just roll their eyes about any worries and say: "Concealed means concealed..."
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ozarkgunner
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I've had my CCW for about 4 years now. All of my close "friends" know that I carry most times. Not certain that they know I have my CCW permit. So far I have not gotten any bad, anti, or other comments form anyone that knows I carry. I don't advertise that I carry, but when the topic comes up I am honest with them. Should I run across some one that has issues with guns or me carring one, I'll listen to their concerns and tell them mine. and go from there. And if need be I will leave, their house if it is, and not darken their door step ever again. And if I ever have some one take issue with it in my house and show any disrespect to me they will be asked to leave and not come back. Friend, wife's friend, co-worker, etc.
DustyVermonter
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Quote: "I would prefer it if you would leave your gun at home". Yeah? I would prefer it if there weren't a bunch loony tunes showing up in all the darndest places unexpectedly and shooting everybody up for god knows why.
Its time for everybody to adapt, and get "comfortable" with the idea that the world aint what it used to be and getting robbed and shot to fund a nickle bag of white powder by a jonesing fiend is a pretty rugular occurance nowadays.
I for one am getting a little tired of people's erronous assumptions, like just because someone carries a gun they are a violent person, or wish to do violence, or have some evil hidden agenda.
I carry a gun because it makes me feel safer, and because I am(yes ill admit it) a little paranoid. Rightfully so.
However, I am also one of the most innocuous, friendly, non-confrontational people you'd ever meet and I thank god everyday I get to live and don't have to use my gun on somebody. People just have a tendency toward not liking things they don't understand, or don't have any interest in.
Its time for everybody to adapt, and get "comfortable" with the idea that the world aint what it used to be and getting robbed and shot to fund a nickle bag of white powder by a jonesing fiend is a pretty rugular occurance nowadays.
I for one am getting a little tired of people's erronous assumptions, like just because someone carries a gun they are a violent person, or wish to do violence, or have some evil hidden agenda.
I carry a gun because it makes me feel safer, and because I am(yes ill admit it) a little paranoid. Rightfully so.
However, I am also one of the most innocuous, friendly, non-confrontational people you'd ever meet and I thank god everyday I get to live and don't have to use my gun on somebody. People just have a tendency toward not liking things they don't understand, or don't have any interest in.
mljdeckard
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If you are going to be somewhere that might be hostile, don't tell anyone.
DustyVermonter
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Also, I'm not going to be the guy being dragged out of my car at a stop sign and getting beat half to death with a tire iron while my daughter watches in terror from her car seat.
That kind of stuff happens everyday and people don't seem half as concerned with these people as they are with CCW holders.
Beat somebody almost to death and change the lives of others forever and maybe the guy gets a couple years of counseling in the can and when he gets out he's "rehabilitated".
Go out and get your CCW after an ordeal like that and you're a paranoid gun nut just waiting for an excuse to shoot somebody.
Please excuse my persistence on this subject, its because I have been beat with a baseball bat and robbed and also have had to defend myself in the driveway of my previous home and ended up inflicting considerable, but not serious or excessive damage to the guy, and the responding officers I spoke with had this weird attitude toward me as if I had done something wrong and even spoke of assault charges while they spoke with me.
Crazy world we live in, why take a chance?
That kind of stuff happens everyday and people don't seem half as concerned with these people as they are with CCW holders.
Beat somebody almost to death and change the lives of others forever and maybe the guy gets a couple years of counseling in the can and when he gets out he's "rehabilitated".
Go out and get your CCW after an ordeal like that and you're a paranoid gun nut just waiting for an excuse to shoot somebody.
Please excuse my persistence on this subject, its because I have been beat with a baseball bat and robbed and also have had to defend myself in the driveway of my previous home and ended up inflicting considerable, but not serious or excessive damage to the guy, and the responding officers I spoke with had this weird attitude toward me as if I had done something wrong and even spoke of assault charges while they spoke with me.
Crazy world we live in, why take a chance?
cleardiddion
Member
My folk's sentiments EXACTLY.
According to my old man I'm going to pull it in a standard argument and turn things into a bloodbath.
/facepalm!
Well, all I know is that my ccw gives me a little more confidence when I drive across country in a few short hours.
One less thing to worry slightly less about.
DustyVermonter
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Quote: "if you are going somewhere that might be hostile".
That's everywhere, even you're own home in some scenarios, hence 'HD'.
That's everywhere, even you're own home in some scenarios, hence 'HD'.
mljdeckard
Member
When I say hostile, I mean where people would be hostile towards the idea of you carrying. If I meant a place that might be dangerous, I would have said dangerous, but I would say to not go there at all.
W.E.G.
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I don't carry all the time.
But, lots of folks know I'm a gun person, so they sometimes "give me flak."
I just remind the "flakkers" that a QUARTER MILLION people in my state have concealed handgun permits.
Then I encourage them to show me where, in the news, one of these permit holders last committed any crime.
You can find more news of people being struck by lightning, than news about permit-holders committing crime.
Then I ask them whether they think their concerns and fears might be just a bit irrational.
By contrast, there is ample news daily of incidents where a trained person with a gun might have prevented a violent crime.
What the flakkers are basically saying is, they cannot IN THEIR WILDEST DREAMS imagine themselves being the person who intervenes, and who prevents or terminates, the actions of a violent person.
OK. That's fine.
I then tell them we could debate this all day, but it comes down to the old saying:
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
I tell them to rest well, because I am one of those "rough men," and I am their friend -- even if they have a hard time understanding why I do what I do.
But, lots of folks know I'm a gun person, so they sometimes "give me flak."
I just remind the "flakkers" that a QUARTER MILLION people in my state have concealed handgun permits.
Then I encourage them to show me where, in the news, one of these permit holders last committed any crime.
You can find more news of people being struck by lightning, than news about permit-holders committing crime.
Then I ask them whether they think their concerns and fears might be just a bit irrational.
By contrast, there is ample news daily of incidents where a trained person with a gun might have prevented a violent crime.
What the flakkers are basically saying is, they cannot IN THEIR WILDEST DREAMS imagine themselves being the person who intervenes, and who prevents or terminates, the actions of a violent person.
OK. That's fine.
I then tell them we could debate this all day, but it comes down to the old saying:
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
I tell them to rest well, because I am one of those "rough men," and I am their friend -- even if they have a hard time understanding why I do what I do.
I know there is a tactical side that says "don't let everyone know you carry" because in a pinch everyone is looking at you or concealment is part of the necessity to control the situation. However I don't mind friends and family knowing I carry or even some acquaintances. I still train, and folks understand I am proficient with a firearm. My employees know I carry. It gives everyone time to think before they act against me. Does it mean people can come in with guns blazing because they know I am a practicing CCW? I suppose that is true - but there is a positive side to sharing you carry with those you know...
I also think its important to kill the stigma attached to carrying by talking about it openly. A lot of people are curious and the more they know the less worried they are about it. I wouldn't tell everyone but I would definitely share your want to protect yourself. You might be surprised at how some people might accept it and in some cases start carrying themselves. I have shown countless people the freedom of CCW and if I stayed locked up in a closet not telling ANYONE but my CCW lifestyle - there would be about 50 less people in this world practicing their daily 2nd Amendment rights. Case in point at work now lots of people carry. So the burden is no longer on me in a situation that would occur at work.
Yes I know there are counter arguments. Suffice to say I like to teach people the benefits of protecting themselves. Most people have not forgotten their instinctual urges to protect them and their loved ones after thousands of years of evolution. There are those though that have had their minds permanently highjacked by media or social bias and you will never change their minds so don't bother trying.
Each to their own - if you don't like to discuss it - don't. However there is another side to the story and I am no less security conscious than the next guy.
As for the issue about dealing with people who "dislike" CCW. Honestly you can't change your family but you sure can change your friends. Family members that don't like it you can respect them by not carrying at their houses (I would choose not to go) and understanding they have opinions too. But I suggest you find a few shooting friends and you'll realize how much more relaxed you are around your friends when you have firearms ownership and CCW in common. It would be like being a staunch Democrat and having all die hard republicans for friends. What's the point? It's too stressful. Find some people with core common ground with your beliefs. A CCW is not about carrying a gun necessarily but more about the want/need to protect yourself and loved ones. It's hard to get along with people that like to feel warm and safe because the cops are only a phone call away. We who carry - understand that fallacy.
lbj
I also think its important to kill the stigma attached to carrying by talking about it openly. A lot of people are curious and the more they know the less worried they are about it. I wouldn't tell everyone but I would definitely share your want to protect yourself. You might be surprised at how some people might accept it and in some cases start carrying themselves. I have shown countless people the freedom of CCW and if I stayed locked up in a closet not telling ANYONE but my CCW lifestyle - there would be about 50 less people in this world practicing their daily 2nd Amendment rights. Case in point at work now lots of people carry. So the burden is no longer on me in a situation that would occur at work.
Yes I know there are counter arguments. Suffice to say I like to teach people the benefits of protecting themselves. Most people have not forgotten their instinctual urges to protect them and their loved ones after thousands of years of evolution. There are those though that have had their minds permanently highjacked by media or social bias and you will never change their minds so don't bother trying.
Each to their own - if you don't like to discuss it - don't. However there is another side to the story and I am no less security conscious than the next guy.
As for the issue about dealing with people who "dislike" CCW. Honestly you can't change your family but you sure can change your friends. Family members that don't like it you can respect them by not carrying at their houses (I would choose not to go) and understanding they have opinions too. But I suggest you find a few shooting friends and you'll realize how much more relaxed you are around your friends when you have firearms ownership and CCW in common. It would be like being a staunch Democrat and having all die hard republicans for friends. What's the point? It's too stressful. Find some people with core common ground with your beliefs. A CCW is not about carrying a gun necessarily but more about the want/need to protect yourself and loved ones. It's hard to get along with people that like to feel warm and safe because the cops are only a phone call away. We who carry - understand that fallacy.
lbj
DustyVermonter
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W.E.G. and Valvefury, Well said
effengee
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I'm glad I live in Vermont...
Basically everybody I know carries, all the time.
If you read my first ever post on THR you'll see a prime example of how carrying get's handled around here...
I've had several times where it gets noticed that I'm carrying a concealed firearm and I sometimes get asked several questions and a few times I've had the cops called on me, but that's usually when I go to the bigger towns.
I carry everywhere I can and constantly confront and inform those who try to stop me. Be clear and concise that it is as much our constitutionally protected right as saying that the president is a raving lunatic or that you worship a gold idol during the full moon.
You can bet the whole firearms museum that if I had to pay and then qualify, to get certified to carry, that I'd be carrying it everywhere; hospitals, schools, post offices, and be darned if they could get me to stop.
Basically everybody I know carries, all the time.
If you read my first ever post on THR you'll see a prime example of how carrying get's handled around here...
I've had several times where it gets noticed that I'm carrying a concealed firearm and I sometimes get asked several questions and a few times I've had the cops called on me, but that's usually when I go to the bigger towns.
I carry everywhere I can and constantly confront and inform those who try to stop me. Be clear and concise that it is as much our constitutionally protected right as saying that the president is a raving lunatic or that you worship a gold idol during the full moon.
You can bet the whole firearms museum that if I had to pay and then qualify, to get certified to carry, that I'd be carrying it everywhere; hospitals, schools, post offices, and be darned if they could get me to stop.
omegaflame
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How are they noticing?
P97
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I'm going on my second license term and carried long before that. I have never had anyone notice or say anything about me Carrying. Had a Police Officer stop me for a Tag Light out, and saw a loaded .45 magazine in the door pocket. Ask me if I was Carrying and I told him I had it on me now. He didn't ask for my drivers license or say anything, except just get the tag light fixed, which I did. I never notice having the gun on, and other people don't either. Today with Cell phones, and all kinds of things hanging off belts, people don't notice unless you do something to call it to their attention.
MisterMike
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While some folks don't mind others knowing that they carry regularly, my feeling is that it's generally not wise to advertise it. Only a handful of my friends and family know that I carry, and they're sufficiently familiar with my background to know that it doesn't present a safety concern. Apart from this small group, why, in God's name, would I advertise it?
I suppose there are tactical reasons to keep the fact a secret, but for me the most important factor is simply that I don't want to talk about it. I'll debate the issue generally all day long, but no person other than me--and possibly my wife--has the same interests I do in ensuring my safety and that of those who mean something to me. For that reason, it's the ultimate "none of your business" topic--it can't have any possible negative impact on my friends and preserving my life is of the greatest personal consequence to me.
One of the themes I see repeated often here at THR is an overly expansive definition of the term, "friends." Someone mentioned it above, but most of us are fortunate if we have more than a handful of true friends--people who would stick with you through good times and bad, and who would put themselves on the line for your well being. For the most part, people you hang out with, those with whom you play softball, and those who hit the bars with you are not going to rise to that level of friendship. Just as you should not be sharing other important personal details of your life with this larger circle of acquaintances with whom you are friendly, you should not be sharing this detail. It's a personal decision of great consequence, and it's not a matter that you should consider open to free debate among everyone who knows you.
I suppose there are tactical reasons to keep the fact a secret, but for me the most important factor is simply that I don't want to talk about it. I'll debate the issue generally all day long, but no person other than me--and possibly my wife--has the same interests I do in ensuring my safety and that of those who mean something to me. For that reason, it's the ultimate "none of your business" topic--it can't have any possible negative impact on my friends and preserving my life is of the greatest personal consequence to me.
One of the themes I see repeated often here at THR is an overly expansive definition of the term, "friends." Someone mentioned it above, but most of us are fortunate if we have more than a handful of true friends--people who would stick with you through good times and bad, and who would put themselves on the line for your well being. For the most part, people you hang out with, those with whom you play softball, and those who hit the bars with you are not going to rise to that level of friendship. Just as you should not be sharing other important personal details of your life with this larger circle of acquaintances with whom you are friendly, you should not be sharing this detail. It's a personal decision of great consequence, and it's not a matter that you should consider open to free debate among everyone who knows you.
Shadowdancer
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I believe in "Don't ask... don't tell". I have my permit. I carry when I consider it necessary, and I certainly don't advertise. My reason for having the permit is so that I can minimize risk.
I believe in the freedom of choice, whether it is to get a CCW, or for a woman to have an abortion. But I also believe in respecting another person's wishes if I am on their turf.
In the grand scheme of things, we face much greater threats in our daily lives. Once every 10 years, there may be a multiple-reload gun fight in the State I live in. There are 100 winners of the lottery every year here. There is a 1000x greater chance of winning the lottery than there is in getting into a major gunfight. There are 100's of traffic accidents every day. Yet, we all seem to be preaching about how to get our permits and then spend countless hours at the target range. How many of us go to driving school?
I believe in the freedom of choice, whether it is to get a CCW, or for a woman to have an abortion. But I also believe in respecting another person's wishes if I am on their turf.
In the grand scheme of things, we face much greater threats in our daily lives. Once every 10 years, there may be a multiple-reload gun fight in the State I live in. There are 100 winners of the lottery every year here. There is a 1000x greater chance of winning the lottery than there is in getting into a major gunfight. There are 100's of traffic accidents every day. Yet, we all seem to be preaching about how to get our permits and then spend countless hours at the target range. How many of us go to driving school?
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