Chicago doesn't have an AW ban??

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I thought all guns were banned in Chicago?

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-reed11.html

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Man charged in shooting that killed girl, 14
March 11, 2006

BY ANNIE SWEENEY AND STEFANO ESPOSITO Staff Reporters

A South Side man was charged Friday with opening fire on an Englewood street last week, aiming for his girlfriend's former boyfriend but hitting and killing a 14-year-old girl as she stood at her living room window, Chicago Police said.

Carail Weeks' intended target was standing in front of Starkesia Reed's home in the 6700 block of South Honore last Friday, Wentworth Area Cmdr. Pat Walsh said. But Weeks missed his target, and his gunfire struck several houses, including the home of the Harper High School honor student, who was inside her living room eating an orange, police said.

Police were still looking for the driver of a car that Weeks was in when he allegedly fired the shots.

Weeks has told investigators he was not involved in last Friday's shooting, saying he was spending time with his mother and was not out on the street either that Friday or Saturday, a law enforcement source said.

But one witness told investigators he was outside with Weeks on Saturday, the source said. On that day, an anxious Weeks pulled out a copy of a Sun-Times article and told the witness that a story about the shooting included a description of the suspect that seemed to match Weeks, the source said. Then, to emphasize the apparent match, Weeks pulled out his identification and showed it to the witness, the source said.

Weeks was carrying that identification when he was arrested, the source said.

The news of charges against Weeks brought some comfort to the Reed family. But the weapon used -- police said they think it was an AK-47 -- stunned Starkesia's oldest brother, Antoine Reed, 25.

Duncan calls for ban

"How can a person get a gun like that?'' said Reed, who is a teacher and coach at nearby Harper. "That is something you take to a war in Iraq. Why would you have something like that walking up and down the street?"

Chicago Public Schools CEO Arne Duncan called on legislators in Springfield to stand up to gun lobbying groups and approve a ban on assault weapons such as the AK-47.

"Legislators ... have to have the courage to not be held hostage by the NRA, to get these weapons out of the hands of citizens,'' Duncan said at a news conference called to announce the charges against Weeks.

Weeks has been arrested at least seven times, according to court records, including for drug possession and other minor offenses, but he was not known to police as being particularly violent or troublesome in the Englewood neighborhood, police said.

Immediately after the shooting, investigators focused on whether gang affiliations in the neighborhood were involved.

But Walsh said Friday that Weeks' girlfriend had an argument with her former boyfriend -- and Weeks shot at him in retaliation.

When asked if this was over a girl, Walsh said, "Simply put, yes."

However, one law enforcement source said the investigation into exactly why Weeks fired was still open.

No matter what the motive, Antoine Reed said the damage is already done to his family.

"My sister ain't coming back,'' he said. "We've just been praying. And as long as we keep on praying ... God's in control."

The Englewood community has a history of gang and drug activity, but Starkesia's shooting still upset many people there. Several rallies were held during the week to remember the teen -- a JROTC member at Harper and dancer at her church -- and also to urge people with information to come forward.

Walsh credited the community with apparently helping solve the crime: "I think the good citizens of the city saw that an innocent 14-year-old girl was shot, and they took a stand."

Contributing: Lisa Donovan
 
Maybe I need a tinfoil hat, but don't you think it strange that there just happens to be a push for the ban of "assault weapons" and then something like this happens. :scrutiny:
 
WHat you didnt know about the Chicago PDs gang membership??


Everytime an assault weapon ban comes up in Springfield and gets shot down this happens. EVERYTIME.

No tinfoil hat required.

This is the exact reason why I am leaving this state.

The key line in the story-the guy has been arrested 7 times previously. I am sure he is an upstanding citizen that walked into the local gunshop FOID in hand and bought the weapon legally.
 
check that foil beanie......didn't you know that the rumor about Daley and the mafia is most likely more than just a rumor?:what:
 
"Legislators ... have to have the courage to not be held hostage by the NRA, to get these weapons out of the hands of citizens,'' Duncan said at a news conference called to announce the charges against Weeks.

AKs in the hands of citizens are not the problem. Crimenals are the problem.

-Bill
 
But the weapon used -- police said they think it was an AK-47

It really doesn't matter, but if they haven't recovered the gun, why do they "think" is was an AK-47??? Empty 7.62 x 39mm brass (if they found any) could point toward any number of different rifles... :uhoh: :scrutiny:

But of course, in Chicago any shooting must involve an AK-47... :rolleyes:
 
Empty 7.62 x 39mm brass (if they found any) could point toward any number of different rifles...

Yes, but the most common rifle chambered for 7.62x39mm in the US happends to be the AK...

-Bill
 
1. Yes, Cook County has an "assault weapons ban." It does outlaw the AK-47 and most variants (maybe all?)

2. The head of Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence has a letter to the editor of a bunch of papers this week claiming that police recovered 29 rounds from 7 buildings. His point, of course, was that only a bullet-spraying Evil Assault Weapon (tm) would do such a thing--if the shooter had taken careful aim and squeezed off a shot or two from a double-barreled bird gun, the victim would still be alive.

If that's true, I'm sure the police are assuming that the shooter didn't reload and was probably using a 30-round magazine. That makes the AK the most likely weapon.
 
Hmm, lets see here. An innocent bystander is killed by a criminal, underscoring the fact that, despite their best efforts, the government and its agents cannot guarantee everyone's safety. The offered response is tool ban tools that law abiding citizens can use for self defense. Brilliant logic.
 
Sigh... sad.

This is exactly what set in motion the AW ban here years ago. 1 guy does something stupid and ends up ruining it for everyone else because the sheeple hear "AK-47" or "Assault Weapon/Rifle" and automatically think they're some kinds of super killing machines.

People watch to many movies.
 
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AK-47" or "Assault Weapon/Rifle" and automatically think they're some kinds of super killing machines.

Some people get amazed after I explain to them how "weak" the 7.62x39mm is in comparson to 30-06, 308 Win, etc. And some of these guys thought that AK bullets were BIG!

-Bill
 
hehe yeah...
That's why I like having a SKS and my Remington 710. When I get antis over the house, I show them the difference between .30-06 and 7.62x39.. they're always like "Oh.. wow".

I'd be much more afraid of a madman going crazy with a scoped bolt-action "hunting" type rifle in .30-06 than some person firing 7.62 indiscriminatley from an "Assault" type rifle
 
Chicago DOES have it's own semi-automatic ban.

It also bans any 50 caliber firearm except maybe antiques.

You could prolly find the exact text in the Chicago city code.
 
Standing Wolf said:
Maybe Illinois should try to control criminals, which do commit crimes, rather than firearms, which don't.

Then King Richard would loose all of his employees at city hall and his entire voting block
 
The article sounds like the Police have not recovered the weapon used; that means they have no fingerprints to match, and no ballistics match either. The article does not indicate that there are reliable witnesses that place the alleged shooter at the scene; they have a possible motive for the alleged shooter, but little else. They have not found the driver, so presumably they have not found the car either.

This may be one of those cases where the police assume a particular person is guilty, and try to find enough circumstantial evidence to convict; they do not always have an open mind to consider that someone else may be guilty, and look for evidence to support that.

From most news accounts of murders, the standard assumption by police is that the person was killed by a family member, domestic partner, or close acquaintance; that is where almost all of the effort to locate evidence is directed. In this case, they have assumed that the intended victim had a secondary relationship with the shooter, and went looking for the person using a description that could match to a large number of people.

I wouldn't want to be a man in those circumstances; if you can't prove your innocence, you go to jail, even if you had nothing to do with the crime. That is why we read about people being found innocent after spending 20 or more years in jail; DNA evidence has let innocent men loose from jail, that were in the wrong place at the wrong time, circumstances were the strongest evidence against them, and no other suspects were investigated.

I am not saying that this man did not do this shooting; he may have, but there is no reason to believe he did based on the story that was published.
 
From most news accounts of murders, the standard assumption by police is that the person was killed by a family member, domestic partner, or close acquaintance; that is where almost all of the effort to locate evidence is directed.

You are still be far more likly to be murdered by someone you know then a complete stranger.

-Bill
 
2 kids shot in 2 weeks

They had another 11 year old child killed by stray gunfire over the past weekend too.

The Chicago Police immediately announced that she was also "killed by an assault weapon and we need to ban these tools of death to stop this sluaghter of children". Then they trotted out the local ministers to rant and rail against these deaths and the need to outlaw these evil guns.

How the cops knew, even before they had taped off the crime scene, what weapon was used was just amazing. Even my wife asked, "how could they know what kind of rifle they used, or even if it was a rifle so quickly?"

Neither the cop spokesperson nor the ministers said a single word on TV about the drug gangs that were shooting at each other over turf, or the fact that the weapons they were describing have been banned in c(r)ook county for years.

They didn't mention the shooters previous convictions or arrests for drug dealing or even for gun crimes in Illinois or cook county (I'm SURE he had a valid FOID card).

It's much easier to blame an inanimate object for the problem on camera, rather than admit that you have failed to control your own children and your community. Or that you have accepted a culture of young, single parent households where getting an education and helping your children improve their opportunities is not a priority as normal.

They couldn't wait to roll in the blood of these casualties of the Chicago gang turf wars.

I'm also sure, that with their usual sensitivity and honesty, the Brady bunch will have a press release out "mourning" the deaths by these tools of the devil.
 
I read about these shootings this morning on www.concealcarry.org and I noticed what might be a new trend in blaming the weapons. Two places in these articles besides blaming the guns and the NRA for the shootings and calling for an AWB in Illinois, used the expression, (semi-automatic weapons too easily can be converted to automatic weapons.)
Yes this is true for some weapons but that is allready illegal just like making pipe bombs or driving an SUV into a crowd of people. Jim.
 
And of course 7.62x39 can also come from TC Contenders, Brazilian break barrels, and various bolt actions....
 
It's illegal to posses any firearm in chicago(cook county)......unless your an aldermen!! Makes me want to know why chicago aldermen need a firearm for protection and we don't?????????
 
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