jgh4445
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One of my friends, a guy I shoot with almost every weekend is 80 and was a gun dealer for over 20 years. He had a lot of dealing with Ubertis and Colts and Ruger SAA types over the years. He and I were talking about my latest Uberti purchase and he told me the following about Uberti and Cimarron. I have no reason to doubt him but wanted to see what you guys think.
He told me the reason that Cimarron Model P’s shot to POA today was that back in the early days of Uberti 1873, they all shot high and to the right or left, never to point of aim. He said he bought a ton of them from Mike Harvey (Cimarron) and would almost always have to send them back. He said that in the early days, Uberti would make a bunch of frames and put them in a box, then cylinders, then barrels etc. He went on to say that as they built revolvers they just reached in the box and got a frame, barrel, cylinder etc., and assembled them.
Supposedly, per my friend, Mike Harvey made a bunch of trips to Italy and got the gun maker to start “line boring” the cylinders with the axis of the barrels and got them to keep all the parts of one gun together during the assembly process. He also insisted on certain finish standards for guns that were to be marked "Cimarron". This supposedly resulted in a more accurate revolver and contributed to the notion that Cimarrons were built to better specs than the run of the mill Ubertis. Mike Harvey reportedly guaranteed his Model P’s to shoot to POA. My friend says he and Harvey spoke often and at length on many occasions on this subject and the information I wrote in this post came directly from Mike Harvey. What say you guys?
He told me the reason that Cimarron Model P’s shot to POA today was that back in the early days of Uberti 1873, they all shot high and to the right or left, never to point of aim. He said he bought a ton of them from Mike Harvey (Cimarron) and would almost always have to send them back. He said that in the early days, Uberti would make a bunch of frames and put them in a box, then cylinders, then barrels etc. He went on to say that as they built revolvers they just reached in the box and got a frame, barrel, cylinder etc., and assembled them.
Supposedly, per my friend, Mike Harvey made a bunch of trips to Italy and got the gun maker to start “line boring” the cylinders with the axis of the barrels and got them to keep all the parts of one gun together during the assembly process. He also insisted on certain finish standards for guns that were to be marked "Cimarron". This supposedly resulted in a more accurate revolver and contributed to the notion that Cimarrons were built to better specs than the run of the mill Ubertis. Mike Harvey reportedly guaranteed his Model P’s to shoot to POA. My friend says he and Harvey spoke often and at length on many occasions on this subject and the information I wrote in this post came directly from Mike Harvey. What say you guys?