CMP Garand Service Grade SA or HRA?

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I'm getting ready to send in an order for a service grade M1 Garand from the CMP. I can't decide whether I should go for the HRA or the Springfield Armory. From what I've heard, the Garands they're sending out are Post WWII, and for post WWII, HRAs tend to be in better condition. Does anybody have any experience with both? Maybe from browsing at the stores? I did a search and found lots of threads on the CMP Garands, but nothing specifically comparing these two manufacturers in this grade.

Thanks in advance.
 
If you have the cash, order both then keep the best one. You will be able to sell the other for more than you paid for it.

Just be aware, you will most likely want to keep them both:D
 
It's impossible to tell, gryfyffydydydddd. Depends on how much the rifle in question was used/abused. Both makers built equal-quality rifles, IMO.

I really like my service grade HRA but I haven't ordered a springfield service grade to compare it to. I doubt there would be any significant difference other than how that particular rifle was treated.
 
Well, I was just hoping somebody might have looked at enough of the ones they're currently selling to see if there's a pattern. If I had the cash to buy both I wouldn't be asking the question, the order would have been sent out already!

Thanks in any case :)
 
I've received two service grade H&R Garands in the last 4-5 months, the last one came 1.5 months ago. Easily the nicest Garands I've ever received from the CMP. CMP used to charge more money for the H&R's than the Springfield's. I would order a H&R and grab a Springfield later. YMMV.
 
The CMP has tons of all correct HRA's and SA's. They vary from excellent like new condition, to well used. In between there are a thousands that have lots of handling wear, but were never issued. These are late model rifles that were sent to Greece.

They also have ton's of Arsenal rebuilds.

The best of the all correct best are sold as Collector Grade. They have the most finish, least dings. And they are sold with all correct parts.

All correct rifles sold as a lesser grade have the parts mixed around. This is done when the rifles are disassembled for inspection. The guy at the bench is under direction to ensure than no lesser grade rifle leaves with all matching parts. The CMP swaps out the marked parts: bolts, operating rods, stocks, trigger guards. The amount of swapping depends. It is usually a minimum of two parts, but it can be all of the parts, in any random selection.

Really excellent condition SA/HRA stocks are laid aside, and fitted to rifles with really excellent metal finish, and sold for the premium Collector Grade.

If a rifle has a rare stock, that is laid aside. IHC, WWII correct stocks, etc. The CMP has a shortage of stocks, and is using Boyd’s stocks to finish out lesser grade rifles. Those rifles look good.

So, if you want to increase your chance of getting an all correct rifle, buy a late model SA and a HRA.

There is no guarantee that the swapped parts in your rifles will either be HRA or late model SA, (remember the rebuilds that might be on the bench at the same time) but if they are, you might be able to swap parts between rifles to get close to an all correct rifle.

Now, some are going to ask, why does the CMP do this?:

It maintains the high prices they can charge for the Collector Grade, and it ensures that no one who paid for a Collector Grade rifle can complain about having paid $350.00 more, but they don’t think it was worth it after they examined a friends all correct “Standard Grade”.

CMP deigns this, but I know people who worked there and told me what was going on. Then of course there is the evidence of those Standard Grade and Rack Grade rifles, rifles that from the finish wear have not been fired since the factory, have the correct receiver and barrel, and yet, somehow two or all of the marked parts are missing.

Ask around, how come since the Volunteers were kicked out, how many all correct standard grade, or rack grade rifles have you examined?
 
I went to the south store a month ago and ended up bringing home an HRA Service Grade. I just looked around until I found some that I liked the overall condition of. Out of those I got the one that gauged the best.
 
Damnit, I really wish I could have a CMP store nearby. When I get the money I'm buying a nice garand... What's the best way to be sure to get one that doesn't have much muzzle wear or whatever when buying online/phone.
 
Going to the CMP store (north or south) is the way to go. You pick your own that way. In the North store Garand selection has been down due to increased demand. Also in reference to buying two and making money. Against the CMP rules. They are an organization to promote marksmanship, not a wholesaler.
 
I would certainly love to visit one of the stores. Unfortunately, the closest one is 2400 miles away from me. I think I'll go for the HRA based on what I've read in this thread and elsewhere.

Mailing it off today :) Sounds like it could be July or later before I get it.
 
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