Let him go N.F.'s. He can't force a collision if he's in front of you, because you can go as slow as you want. O.T.O.H. if he's behind you, and you are trying to outrun him- not only is that obviously more dangerous for all parties involved (and not involved), but he is also less likely to stay engaged with someone tyring to "out slow" him vs. a high speed chase. The latter is just what the road-rager wants, N.T.M. your attention is now split with the rear-view mirror while you're W.O.T.
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Let him go N.F.'s. He can't force a collision if he's in front of you, because you can go as slow as you want. O.T.O.H. if he's behind you, and you are trying to outrun him- not only is that obviously more dangerous for all parties involved (and not involved), but he is also less likely to stay engaged with someone tyring to "out slow" him vs. a high speed chase. The latter is just what the road-rager wants, N.T.M. your attention is now split with the rear-view mirror while you're W.O.T.
ZO6Vettever
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I'm just too old to fight. It's easier to wave an apoligy than the bird. If that don't work I'll outrun them and if I'm in traffic I'll lock the doors and hope it doesn't escalate. If it ever should escalate to the point where they are breaking glass and it's me or them it's gonna get really loud in my car. So if you should see an old guy drivin a black ZO6 take your anger elsewhere.
monkyboy1975
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you have to be careful. This planet is full of nuts!
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Good site to report an infraction....
http://www.platewire.com is a good site to record the infraction. All you need is the license plate number and a description of the vehicle they were driving. If you don't have the exact model, or even a vague description, that is enough to still post the infraction.
Explain what happened. LEO monitors that site. Once the person's plate is in the database, it's there for good.
Some cell phones have note-taking recording capabilities, so you can just record the infraction onto your cell phone and play it back when you get home.
Go there and read about all the nuts there are! People are insane any more. It's almost like every man & woman for themself.
http://www.platewire.com is a good site to record the infraction. All you need is the license plate number and a description of the vehicle they were driving. If you don't have the exact model, or even a vague description, that is enough to still post the infraction.
Explain what happened. LEO monitors that site. Once the person's plate is in the database, it's there for good.
Some cell phones have note-taking recording capabilities, so you can just record the infraction onto your cell phone and play it back when you get home.
Go there and read about all the nuts there are! People are insane any more. It's almost like every man & woman for themself.
Highland Ranger
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Makes me happy I drive big gas guzzling SUV's (especially now that gas is $1.45/gal)!!!
Safety first!
Safety first!
Wolfebyte
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from the front page of the link provided....:
yup, I'm gonna hop right on that complaint..
I would tend to ignore any citizen complaints from a site like that. The complainants are able to hide behind a screen name, there is no validity to a complaint filed.. it's more of a gripe zone.. And a poor one at that.
Cell phones are a way of life now, just call the local police dept and report them.. 911 if it's urgent (US only..) most areas have 311 for non emergency issues. Most interstates have the cell phone number for the state police every few miles. Star cops or something similar..
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had 4 folks in 2 cars decide that i drive too slow . and try to follow me home. cell phone worked great. 4 folks in cuffs. one dui 3 ins referrals
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Same here. If I am wrong, I try to express my "appology." That's just being decent. While rare that I make a mistake on the road, when I HAVE done this, it typically diffuses anything.
But I gotta say this. I have been, on occasion, probably been the cause of some "road rage." I can think of a fairly recent event. For it, I am completely unapologetic.
A couple weeks ago, my wife and I went out to eat. On the way home on a country highway, I start getting tailgated by one of those rice-burner hotrods. Because there was on-coming traffic, he couldn't pass me.
Now look.... the speed limit through here is 55 mph. I don't really drive fast anymore, but I typically stay at around 60-65 mph. On country highways at night, you REALLY don't want to be going too fast. Suicide deer LOVE to hang out in the bar-pits and throw themselves through the windshield of unsuspecting motorists. You BETTER be ready to react. I say this as a person who has experienced this 4 times in my life.
So...
Said tailgater continues to tailgate me. Oh, I COULD have pulled off the road for him so that he could pass. But I've learned that the source of most of my flat tires has been the shoulders of the roads around here. Hell, I actually got a flat after Katrina when I pulled over to fix ANOTHER flat. That was fun times. After about 11 flat tires, I am not hitting the shoulder unless someone is on fire.
So we are at an impasse.
Oncoming traffic is not going to let him pass anytime soon. I'm not going to end up changing a tire for his benefit, and neither am I going to drive 98 mph for his convinience. This guy is coming unglued. He is swerving all ofter the place and he decides that he should "motivate" me to drive faster by inching up more and more on my rear bumper.
Now, I learned something a while back that impacted me greatly. I was once tailgated by someone who would not back off if I sped up, slowed down, or ignored them. Finally, I gunned it and sped off to increase the gap between us. About the time I got to 68mph, the blue lights came on. Yep, I was being tailgated by a State Trooper, and I got a ticket for my efforts.
So, I don't speed up for tailgaters.
I found something better. I have come to realize that I am really not in that much of a hurry most of the time. I didn't have anywhere that I HAD to be. So, my basic rule is the closer you are to my rear bumper, the SLOWER we all go.
As I see it, it is kinda like how some housebreak a puppy. When you see them pee of the carpet, you rub their noses in it. For me the same goes for tailgaters. Now don't get me wrong. You can't just slow down and stay there. That just isn't right. After all, the puppy doesn't learn anything if you spend your day just rubbing his nose in his pee. That's just sadistic. No, you have to give them an opportunity to correct the behavior.
So, I drop down to about 40mph for a bit. I can literally see the smoke coming out of this guy's ears. But I don't stay at that speed too long. After a short period, I speed back up to 65mph. You'd think a guy would get the hint. But no. The entire time I am speeding back up, he is on my bumper. So, I rinse and repeat with similar results.
I really don't know is this experiment was successful. Before there was a break in traffic, we got to the next town and I got to see what this guy was in such a hurry that he would endanger others to accomplish. He pulls off and drives up into the bay of a CAR WASH. Yep, all of this was over needing to hurry up and wash his freakin' car.
I really don't get this tailgating this. It seems to be getting worse and worse.
I really don't care if you have performance brakes on your car and can stop on a dime. Your reaction time isn't going to be enough. Besides, I have a 4,000 pound truck. Mine ISN'T that good.
I really don't care if you have seen "Gone in 60 Seconds" 32 times. That does NOT give you "mad skilz" on the road.
I really don't care if you are a NASCAR fan. It isn't "drafting." It IS endangering others for your entertainment.
We didn't ask to be on your racetrack or part of your adolescent fantasy. We are just trying to get from point A to point B. If you think that you have the right to suck us into your Movie or NASCAR world, why don't I have the right to throw ball bearings out my window periodically? Seems like a good trade-off. (No, I am NOT going to do that.)
NO ONE needs to drive 14" from someone's bumper. If I can't see your headlights, you can't can't avoid hitting me if I have to react to something.
Can you tell that tailgating is a pet peeve of mine?
OK... rant off.
-- John
Same here. If I am wrong, I try to express my "appology." That's just being decent. While rare that I make a mistake on the road, when I HAVE done this, it typically diffuses anything.
But I gotta say this. I have been, on occasion, probably been the cause of some "road rage." I can think of a fairly recent event. For it, I am completely unapologetic.
A couple weeks ago, my wife and I went out to eat. On the way home on a country highway, I start getting tailgated by one of those rice-burner hotrods. Because there was on-coming traffic, he couldn't pass me.
Now look.... the speed limit through here is 55 mph. I don't really drive fast anymore, but I typically stay at around 60-65 mph. On country highways at night, you REALLY don't want to be going too fast. Suicide deer LOVE to hang out in the bar-pits and throw themselves through the windshield of unsuspecting motorists. You BETTER be ready to react. I say this as a person who has experienced this 4 times in my life.
So...
Said tailgater continues to tailgate me. Oh, I COULD have pulled off the road for him so that he could pass. But I've learned that the source of most of my flat tires has been the shoulders of the roads around here. Hell, I actually got a flat after Katrina when I pulled over to fix ANOTHER flat. That was fun times. After about 11 flat tires, I am not hitting the shoulder unless someone is on fire.
So we are at an impasse.
Oncoming traffic is not going to let him pass anytime soon. I'm not going to end up changing a tire for his benefit, and neither am I going to drive 98 mph for his convinience. This guy is coming unglued. He is swerving all ofter the place and he decides that he should "motivate" me to drive faster by inching up more and more on my rear bumper.
Now, I learned something a while back that impacted me greatly. I was once tailgated by someone who would not back off if I sped up, slowed down, or ignored them. Finally, I gunned it and sped off to increase the gap between us. About the time I got to 68mph, the blue lights came on. Yep, I was being tailgated by a State Trooper, and I got a ticket for my efforts.
So, I don't speed up for tailgaters.
I found something better. I have come to realize that I am really not in that much of a hurry most of the time. I didn't have anywhere that I HAD to be. So, my basic rule is the closer you are to my rear bumper, the SLOWER we all go.
As I see it, it is kinda like how some housebreak a puppy. When you see them pee of the carpet, you rub their noses in it. For me the same goes for tailgaters. Now don't get me wrong. You can't just slow down and stay there. That just isn't right. After all, the puppy doesn't learn anything if you spend your day just rubbing his nose in his pee. That's just sadistic. No, you have to give them an opportunity to correct the behavior.
So, I drop down to about 40mph for a bit. I can literally see the smoke coming out of this guy's ears. But I don't stay at that speed too long. After a short period, I speed back up to 65mph. You'd think a guy would get the hint. But no. The entire time I am speeding back up, he is on my bumper. So, I rinse and repeat with similar results.
I really don't know is this experiment was successful. Before there was a break in traffic, we got to the next town and I got to see what this guy was in such a hurry that he would endanger others to accomplish. He pulls off and drives up into the bay of a CAR WASH. Yep, all of this was over needing to hurry up and wash his freakin' car.
I really don't get this tailgating this. It seems to be getting worse and worse.
I really don't care if you have performance brakes on your car and can stop on a dime. Your reaction time isn't going to be enough. Besides, I have a 4,000 pound truck. Mine ISN'T that good.
I really don't care if you have seen "Gone in 60 Seconds" 32 times. That does NOT give you "mad skilz" on the road.
I really don't care if you are a NASCAR fan. It isn't "drafting." It IS endangering others for your entertainment.
We didn't ask to be on your racetrack or part of your adolescent fantasy. We are just trying to get from point A to point B. If you think that you have the right to suck us into your Movie or NASCAR world, why don't I have the right to throw ball bearings out my window periodically? Seems like a good trade-off. (No, I am NOT going to do that.)
NO ONE needs to drive 14" from someone's bumper. If I can't see your headlights, you can't can't avoid hitting me if I have to react to something.
Can you tell that tailgating is a pet peeve of mine?
OK... rant off.
-- John
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Had you needed to slam on your brakes, that ricee would have been eating your back bumper. I'm sure his car would have gone under your big truck.
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When tailgated I simply remove my foot from the gas pedal till they back off or pass me.
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That's what I typically do as well.
Inspector wrote:
Exactly. And that is not a thing I'd like to have to deal with. You NEVER get home at night around here without seeing several deer on the side of the road.
The irony is that my truck probably could suck the paint off of his car had I wanted to. I've got a 5.7L Hemi in my truck.
-- John
Exactly. And that is not a thing I'd like to have to deal with. You NEVER get home at night around here without seeing several deer on the side of the road.
The irony is that my truck probably could suck the paint off of his car had I wanted to. I've got a 5.7L Hemi in my truck.
-- John
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I'd say it depends on the circumstances and your vehicle vs. the rager's car whether to keep him in front of you or put him well behind you. I drive a 30 year old Dodge Aspen coupe. The car is low to the ground and braking performance is not as good as many newer vehicles, so if I have someone in a large SUV or truck trying to engage me where I would definitely lose the fight if they try to make me rear end them or run me off the road, I prefer to lean on the accelerator and create distance in a hurry. A 3,300 pound car with a 440 easily out-accelerates most other vehicles.
Also, by keeping well ahead, you convey the message that you're not interested in confrontation, where staying behind the aggressor may make him think you want a fight.
OTOH, when I happen to be driving my Jeep Cherokee, outrunning the other guy is not an option, so I'll hang back.
I have yet to experience road rage in my slowest vehicle, though. Go figure
I guess I should also point out that I'm a single guy, so whichever way I decide to deal with a rager, I do not have a wife or child present and need only consider my own safety.
devilc
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Living in the DC area I have had 2 very serious road-rage incidents the past few years.
1)
A Peruvian woman here illegally attacked me on I-395N with her CR-V after she miscalculated the amount of space she had to merge into traffic. I did not notice her in my blindspot until she pulled along side me and began merging by force. She just gunned it and smashed her CR-V into the side of my Camry, forcing her way into the lane. She floored it as I hit my brakes and scraped down the side of my car, sliding in in front of me. After destroying my driver's side she went on to hit another SUV before veering off the exit for Rt 648/Edsall road.
I had dispatch on the phone from the start and the VA state police arrested her shortly after exiting.
The kicker was that she had her 3 year old in the vehicle, not in a car seat.
Further, it was her SECOND conviction for aggressive driving and her THIRD citation for an unrestrained child.
Did I mention that she was an illegal alien with no driver's license?
She is still in the US.
2)
A Salvadoran laborer here illegally became enraged with me on 236/ Little River Turnpike. I was in the righthand lane heading West and he ended up behind me. He was tailgating me, so I slowed down from 55 to 45 - the speed limit then set my cruise at 45. I had just worked a 16 hour day and had no energy to play games - just wanted him to pass me. That enraged him and instead of passing me, he tailgated me through 3 or 4 lights and when we came to stop in Annandale he began throwing things at my car - a book, an apple, a screwdriver, and finally a paving stone which broke my back window.
He was arrested shortly thereafter, paid a nominal fine and is still in the US.
No moral to the story . . . . just hassles I would not have had to endure were it that we had a sane and just immigration policy.
1)
A Peruvian woman here illegally attacked me on I-395N with her CR-V after she miscalculated the amount of space she had to merge into traffic. I did not notice her in my blindspot until she pulled along side me and began merging by force. She just gunned it and smashed her CR-V into the side of my Camry, forcing her way into the lane. She floored it as I hit my brakes and scraped down the side of my car, sliding in in front of me. After destroying my driver's side she went on to hit another SUV before veering off the exit for Rt 648/Edsall road.
I had dispatch on the phone from the start and the VA state police arrested her shortly after exiting.
The kicker was that she had her 3 year old in the vehicle, not in a car seat.
Further, it was her SECOND conviction for aggressive driving and her THIRD citation for an unrestrained child.
Did I mention that she was an illegal alien with no driver's license?
She is still in the US.
2)
A Salvadoran laborer here illegally became enraged with me on 236/ Little River Turnpike. I was in the righthand lane heading West and he ended up behind me. He was tailgating me, so I slowed down from 55 to 45 - the speed limit then set my cruise at 45. I had just worked a 16 hour day and had no energy to play games - just wanted him to pass me. That enraged him and instead of passing me, he tailgated me through 3 or 4 lights and when we came to stop in Annandale he began throwing things at my car - a book, an apple, a screwdriver, and finally a paving stone which broke my back window.
He was arrested shortly thereafter, paid a nominal fine and is still in the US.
No moral to the story . . . . just hassles I would not have had to endure were it that we had a sane and just immigration policy.
I have one story from my younger and dumber youth which isn't really in the THR spirit, but this thead got me thinking about it.
I was on a 6 hour drive across some really bland and straight interstate. I don't remember where, but I wanna say Pennsylvania, because the I-70 and I-80 through that state is some of the straightest and more boring road ever made. I was in a rush, so I was speeding about 15-20 miles faster than the speed of traffic and had been for the last hour or so. At one point a guy in a white car decided I had cut him off too closely (because he had tried to do one of those "speed up at the last moment" things to try to block me out, but he was too slow). When the little patch of traffic opened up, he races up next to me, shows his displeasure in a crude and threatening display, then floors it. I was somehow neither intimidated not offended. I was just minding my own business and I WAS in a hurry. So I decided to take advantage of my new found "radar blocker." I kept him just barely in sight as he proceeded to do 120 mph. Needless to say, i was delighted with the time I was making. After 5 minutes or so, (in which time we didn't pass a single other car, thankfully) he finally slows down to 60. I waited a few seconds well behind him to make sure he wasn't trying to confront me. Then I carefully passed him and continued on at my previous speed. He didn't even look in my direction.
Well, I guess there is somewhat of a point. It's a bad idea to try to out race someone, period. It doesn't matter if you drive a Hemi. Even a Honda can go 120mph, and how much faster do you want to go?
*In my defense, most of my early driving experience occurred in Boston in the 90's, where flipping the bird to another driver is about on par with waving hello. Now that I have more worldly experience, I would never have done that, and I generally take threatening gestures to be .. well, threats.
I was on a 6 hour drive across some really bland and straight interstate. I don't remember where, but I wanna say Pennsylvania, because the I-70 and I-80 through that state is some of the straightest and more boring road ever made. I was in a rush, so I was speeding about 15-20 miles faster than the speed of traffic and had been for the last hour or so. At one point a guy in a white car decided I had cut him off too closely (because he had tried to do one of those "speed up at the last moment" things to try to block me out, but he was too slow). When the little patch of traffic opened up, he races up next to me, shows his displeasure in a crude and threatening display, then floors it. I was somehow neither intimidated not offended. I was just minding my own business and I WAS in a hurry. So I decided to take advantage of my new found "radar blocker." I kept him just barely in sight as he proceeded to do 120 mph. Needless to say, i was delighted with the time I was making. After 5 minutes or so, (in which time we didn't pass a single other car, thankfully) he finally slows down to 60. I waited a few seconds well behind him to make sure he wasn't trying to confront me. Then I carefully passed him and continued on at my previous speed. He didn't even look in my direction.
Well, I guess there is somewhat of a point. It's a bad idea to try to out race someone, period. It doesn't matter if you drive a Hemi. Even a Honda can go 120mph, and how much faster do you want to go?
*In my defense, most of my early driving experience occurred in Boston in the 90's, where flipping the bird to another driver is about on par with waving hello. Now that I have more worldly experience, I would never have done that, and I generally take threatening gestures to be .. well, threats.
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I should probably explain why I wasn't carrying. I received my CHL right at a year ago with grand visions of carrying my full size 45 USP. Well, that lasted about a couple of months or so, then I felt like I was carrying a brick with me. So I quit.
The ironic thing was that I'm in the market for a Glock 36 an was leaving a local gun shop taking a look at one when the incident took place.
Either way, I'll be purchasing one here directly to carry regularly.
thanks gents-- Dan
The ironic thing was that I'm in the market for a Glock 36 an was leaving a local gun shop taking a look at one when the incident took place.
Either way, I'll be purchasing one here directly to carry regularly.
thanks gents-- Dan
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evan price
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Everybody makes a big deal about "raod rage" let's stop glorifying it with the hollywood name du jour. It's bad manners, expressed behind the wheel of a car. People nowadays are so self-indulgent, so self-absorbed, they would rather risk their lives or the lives or others to shave a few seconds off their drive time. If people actually had manners, this wouldn't happen. This works both ways. The fast lane is for driving fast. The slow lane is for merging. How hard is it?
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I agree,
it seems like "every man for himself" on the roads any more.
People in their little protective "steel cages" feel all secure and as big as a giant when they are behind the wheel.
They wouldn't pull half that nonsense in the grocery store -- pushing their cart into your heels and rushing to cut in front of you at the checkout line, or they just might run into a "knuckle sandwich."
it seems like "every man for himself" on the roads any more.
People in their little protective "steel cages" feel all secure and as big as a giant when they are behind the wheel.
They wouldn't pull half that nonsense in the grocery store -- pushing their cart into your heels and rushing to cut in front of you at the checkout line, or they just might run into a "knuckle sandwich."
Deanimator
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1. Back in '84, on the way back from Jefferson Barracks, MO to Ft. Knox, a guy tried to run a friend and me off the road. There was no interaction between us until he started pacing us as if to get us to race, disappeared for a while, then came back and started weaving in front of us, slowing down so as to force us off the road. Boy was he surprised to see me pointing a loaded HK93 at him. Just before this all happened, we saw a pickup pulled off by the side of the road, with a bunch of pissed off people standing around. A friend reported a similar incident in the same area that night. I THINK it was several carjacking attempts, but don't know for sure. Might have been serial killer Alton Coleman. It was the right time and place for it to be him. We'll never know. The State of Ohio eventually killed him for a carjacking/murder instead of me doing it.
2. A friend in Germany was in a convoy on the Autobahn, when a German in a Mercedes illegally broke into the convoy and began weaving back and forth, honking his horn. He was in a hurry and wasn't going to let the escort vehicles or convoy get in his way. He eventually decided that he'd tailgate an M-1 tank. Jet engine exhaust is BAD for automobiles. The paint on his hood bubbled and his windshield cracked. Then he got arrested by the (Fahrbahn?) Polizei.
2. A friend in Germany was in a convoy on the Autobahn, when a German in a Mercedes illegally broke into the convoy and began weaving back and forth, honking his horn. He was in a hurry and wasn't going to let the escort vehicles or convoy get in his way. He eventually decided that he'd tailgate an M-1 tank. Jet engine exhaust is BAD for automobiles. The paint on his hood bubbled and his windshield cracked. Then he got arrested by the (Fahrbahn?) Polizei.
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Keep your weapon on you at all times! Its when you don't think you need it and leave it behind when something happens. Overall you dealt with the situation well. Avoidance is a good overall suvival tactic. However the fact you avoided a bad situation is no excuse not to be armed when you should have been.
By the way, "Hello" I'm new here.
By the way, "Hello" I'm new here.
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Inspector said:
I wouldn't bet on it. I walked into a grocery store one day to see a woman and her kids nearly bowl over an older woman who had walked in the door just ahead of me. When the older woman commented, this other woman got all up in her face as her "kids" took positions on either side. The woman was unbelievably irate, intimidating and threatening violence on the older woman. Again, all of this took place in about a 10 second period right in front of me as I walked in the door--and no one in the store seemed to notice.
Now if there's one thing I can't stand, it's a bigger, stronger or more aggressive person intimidating a weaker person. I guess it's because I once was that weaker person and know how it feels. Needless to say, this situation really got my blood pumping and before I knew it, I was in the middle of the fray, defending the older woman which pushed the aggressive woman over the top. I thought her head was going to explode. She's screaming at me and her kids are yelling at me that "it's none of your business!" and then she threw the race card. I couldn't believe how quickly she tried to make herself the victim.
Just as things were heating up, the store manager and a security guard showed up and escorted the woman out of the store; I was told that she was a known trouble maker. The older woman, obviously shaken, abandoned her cart and left the store. I went on about my business, amazed at how sorry people can be.
As for road rage, I've had several experiences. Here's a brief rundown of the most serious:
Shortly after 9-11
Driving my 4x4 Expedition on I-30 in the left hand lane, mid morning, highway speed, 70 mph.
In my rearview I see a white Ford Ranger weaving through traffic at high speed, using all three lanes to move ahead of "slower" moving traffic.
Semi in the middle lane, me in the left with about a 1.5 car-length between me and the vehicle ahead of me.
Here comes the Ranger, cutting from the right hand lane, across the center lane, and I'm thinking there's no way in Hell he's going to try to cut in front of me. Boy, was I wrong.
He pulls along side, noses ahead a bit then just swerves into my lane. I guess he thought I'd slam on the brakes and let him take the lane. He thought wrong.
The impact, at highway speed, sounded like something out of NASCAR and yet there was only the slightest feeling of impact for me. He was not so lucky. He basically gave himself a perfect pit maneuver turning hard left into the concrete barrier. Looking in my rearview I see traffic slowing. Knowing I wouldn't be rear ended I moved to the left shoulder behind the pickup.
About the time I stop, a wild-eyed Arab looking fellow jumps from the pickup, screaming, waving his arms and races toward my truck. I was considering my options but noticed his hands were empty and I had about 100 pounds on the guy. I stepped out, he stepped back and we had a friendly little chat on the roadside. As we worked out the details, I had several drivers stop and give me their business cards, offering to serve as witnesses-- they'd all observed his aggressive behavior.
Long story short(er), guy had no insurance, never offered a reason he was driving like an idiot, minor damage to my right front quarter panel, heavy damage to his truck but driveable.
Moral: 7,500 pound SUV vs. 3,000 pound pickup is a serious mismatch. He's lucky on two counts:
Had I accelerated and cut my wheels to the right at the moment of impact, he'd have tumbled down the highway.
Considering the mindset of the nation at that time, I'm pretty sure I could have sent him on his way to Allah and been no billed.
Be safe out there...
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