CRKT copy of the Graham Razel

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RancidSumo said:
I would like to get the genuine one but if I had that kind of cash to drop on a knife, I would be ordering one of Valkman's Fighters.

When giving advice, it's hard to proffer a course of action when choices have already been made.

My CRKT Grahams are great knives. I think Valkman will bend over backwards to serve your needs.

Your statement is a good decision.
 
Just got my stubby and have a few questions,
is there a way to remove the writing on the blade?
also everytime i draw it from the sheath there are kydex shavings on the blade, are these leftovers from the making of the sheath or am i cutting the sheath when i draw, also will they go away with time if im not cutting the sheath?
thanks for the help!
 
EHCRain10 said:
there are kydex shavings on the blade

My CRKT Razel was filthy when I got it, covered with a fine black dust. I wondered about what the kydex was doing to my edge for the same reason.

Buit if you don't carry the thing, it's worthless anyway.
 
Both of the CRKT Razels were covered in Kydex particles. I rinsed the sheath out and let it dry and they eventually went away after a few days of carry.
 
I did basically the same thing. After carrying the thing for a few days I just looked at the condition as a hassle, not a problem.

While it's use makes it a valuable tool, it's still a tool. It's going to need maintenance, it's going to have to be cleaned, oiled and sharpened.

And if my particular CRKT Razel is going to live the life I envision, a little bit of dust is almost a non-issue.
 
Joe Demko said:
makes me go running for the credit card.

As you know, I'm a "tinker."

That's an old world slang term for a heartless mercenary who sells and services kitchenware. I feel your pain, and intend to profit from it, if I can.

There is no law that says you cannot buy the EDC in my pocket--the one with the mirror finish--for a slight profit and just a few moments of agony.

Ahhh, don't worry about me, someone else will buy it, and I won't miss a meal...:D
 
Thanks much, Tourist, but also sorry...

The Tourist transformed my CRKT Stubby into a mutant after I performed a minor lobotomy onto it...

I started to use the Razel on a daily basis. And dulled the blade along the way. That's the way it goes with EDC's.

Anyway, I cut some stuff with it (no mayonaise, or hot dogs, sorry...). And I could tell it was losing it's stuff, over my usage every day.

Well, I thought I'd break out my old 4" Smith's Sharpening Sticks from the '80's, I'd guess. A couple 4 inch ceramic sticks.

After a few passes, It was back to being scary sharp in the Tourist tradition.

So, I am grateful to The Tourist on one hand, but glad that I can restore the blade to nearly his capabilities on my own. There is a lot to be said for one's own abilities...

Thanks Chico, for all you have contributed; your spirit, attitude, and generousity are appreciated!

Later,

Kerry
 
DeTerminator said:
Chico, for all you have contributed

Ahhh, now if only the clients would contribute...:D

As you know, I am also a member of KnifeForums. We are currently testing a Japanese style polished edge on a late model Veff fillet knife.

It demonstrates a major thing about the historical innovations of tinkers.

I bought stones from Ben Dale--he and others aided me. Ben Dale was a tinker, someone aided him. Follow that chain of events long enough and you come to our sainted little man of wisdom, the BLMBRM.*

I encourage others who are interested in sharpening by any system or mode of freehand to get a book on sharpening and polishing Japanese cutlery and take some time to learn about and appreciate a craft.

I was delighted to hear that forum moderator, Mike Stewart, himself a cutler of Bark River Knives, refer to the edge on the knife I sent him as "magnificent." Consider the meaning of this in the world edged tools.

Mike, a skilled craftsman and nationally known cutler, a proven knife maker with the full scope of modern tools easily at hand, looks upon the edge of a BLMBRM and praises that teaching.

Oh, Determinator, your credit is good (not great, but good:p) and I'd be happy to look after your Razel at any time.

* a humorous referral to the unknown Japanese polisher in history that took the mud of a river bed and used it to make samurai swords. It stands for "Bent Little Man with a Bucket of Red Mud."
 
My wife asked about the little nick on my right thigh this morning and I had to admit I got it sharpening the Stubby Razel at work yesterday.

She asked how bad the cut in my trousers was and I also had to admit there was no damage to the trousers at all as I was in the toilet down the hall from my office when I did it. :eek:

She blinked a couple of times and after she quit laughing commented, "Only you would take a knife and sharpener to the bathroom instead of a magazine.:rolleyes:".

I'm sure I'm not the ONLY one to do this, but admitted to being guilty as charged.
 
It demonstrates a major thing about the historical innovations of tinkers.

You guys and your "tinker talk," always reminds me of The Tinker, a supporting character in some Louis L'amour novels. He made the best blades around, and it was a mark of honor to own an example of his work. I believe it was Orlando Sackett who owned a Tinker-made knife. :cool:
 
hso said:
I was in the toilet

I cut my ankle flipping a Balisong.

John G said:
it was a mark of honor to own an example of his work

This idea has been around for hundreds of years. In fact, tinkers traveled from city to city in Italy and Sicily sharpening knives and fixing pots. In 1954, we still had a guy everyone called the "rag man" that made his rounds in a horse-drawn cart.

There is an issue that must be addressed. A Japanese polisher believes it is his job to bring out the beauty of the metal from the work of the sword cutler, not himself.

For example, if you bought a Valkman custom knife with my edge, you should rightly say, "Look at the beauty of the steel that Valk uses in his craft."

You should not say, "This is The Tourist's edge."

This idea is known as "the polisher's curse."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55BlqOj-hqo&feature=related

We are well known within our ranks, but nowhere else. In fact, it's even prestigious to be known as a minstrel and a highway man, a slightly deranged skirt chaser.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5lmhZiup3o
 
My copy of the CRKT Stubby arrived yesterday- and the front pin is loose. OK, what do I do with it? Epoxy it in place or what?

Non-knifemaking minds want to know...

lpl/nc
 
Hi Tourist,

Thanks for your generous offer to improve my Stubby, (though my credit is only OK, as it has always been, and will probably continue to be so for a long time).

I didn't have a need to pull it out today (and get it "mayonaissed", or hot dog- ized); the Stubby, that is.

It did accompany me today on a nefarious but humanitarian mission that I never have attempted or accomplished previous in my 50 year - old joint -challenged years. I have been an avid advocate of exercise since probably age 12 or so. So, I have issue with joints, especially my left hip, and left (and now my right, apparently), shoulder joints, I'll find out tomorrow,when I wake up!

But anyway, my Stubby needed a little cleaning today after I helped an old coworker and his friends after I helped put up 5 wagon loads of hay in his barn.

You know, that's how it goes in WI sometimes. Long live the Razel!

Kerry

I'm guessing I kicked some butt, and would be surprised i I'm mildly sore.
 
Hi Tourist,

OK,

The Razor blade of the Razel has been fairly easy to figure out.

My question concerns the Chizel part of the equation.

Any idea's or suggestions, as to what the
best angle or grit suggestions would be that you consider to be best?

I'm wondering about your own personal blades...

Thanks in advance!

Kerry
 
Lee,

Send it back and get another. No production knife should be acceptable if it has a flaw.
 
DeTerminator said:
the Chizel part...your own personal blades

I have not done a lot of scraping with any of my Razels to have to dress the edge as part of a major tune up.

But if I did, I would stay loyal to the design as Josh Graham imagined it.

We seem to understand the "razor" part of the concept. In the same manner, we should also maintain the front bevel as a "chisel."

You can see major tool marks on all three of my Razels. That's because a chisel ain't made for pretty, it's there to work.

When the time comes, I'll go to Sears and look at a Craftsman cold chisel and see what type of stone was used to create a superior tool.

I will then replicate that idea to that front edge.
 
TT, instead of looking at a Craftsman cold chisel you will find a finer example of the tool at a good wood working shop like Wood Crafters. The angle on cold chisel is very broad compared to a wood chisel or the Razels. What you'll find at Wood Crafters is a very different "tip" than is on the Razels. Single sided bevel with a polished edge, but about as shallow as the Razels.

I wish they has done a single sided bevel on the Razels, but I can't see how they would have accomplished it and still meet the "razor" edge.
 
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