CZ P-01 vs. G19...

[trillium]

Put to the same list - HS2000/XD9 in Croatia , Beretta 92FS (not M9) in France , HK P8 in Germany and USP in Spain and Norway (Norwegians also use Glock 17 (called P80 )) . Glock 17 used also by Portugal and Romania (SF), standard Romanian sidearm is Jericho 941 produced under a license in Romania by RomArm .

 

[bangkok]

All I know is that it's a beautiful gun, feels great in the hand and gets great reviews!

 

[GunTech]

The CZ is pretty and fits better. Accuracy is a wash between the two. Accessories for the Glock are far more available and can be found about anywhere.

The Glock will still be shooting long after the Sig is worn out. Examples with over 300,000 rounds are well documented. No other handgun comes close.

On the other hand, no normal human will put that number of rounds through their gun.

The choice comes down to a polymer, utterly reliable and durable gun with all the grace of a plastic 2x4 or a beautiful, comfortable gun but with few and harder to obtain accessories.

I rely on my Glock 23, but I love my CZ-75b. I'm not a big fan of alloy frames, but that's a personal thing.

 

[gallo]

When things go bump in the night, simple is better. With a glock, all you have to do is pull the trigger. The SP-01 has a safety to worry about.

 

[IdahoLT1]

When things go bump in the night, simple is better. With a glock, all you have to do is pull the trigger. The SP-01 has a safety to worry about.

Not necessarily true. I OC my S&W 1006 often but keep the safety off with a round in the chamber. Just because a gun has a safety, doesnt mean it has to be carried with it "on".

 

[DougDubya]

When things go bump in the night, simple is better. With a glock, all you have to do is pull the trigger. The SP-01 has a safety to worry about.

Only one variant of the SP-01 has a safety.

But the P-01, which is actually referenced here, operates like a SIG-Sauer, and only has a decocker to be activated at leisure, after action.

IE: Both pistols have the same "prep time" to get the first shot off.

Besides, a frame mounted, Browning-style safety being THAT difficult? Anyone that has trouble with the utter simplicity of a CZ safety has problems. To paraphrase Massad Ayoob - do [they] wear only slip-on loafers because shoelaces are too difficult to figure out too?

 

[gallo]

DougDubya,

I meant to type P-01, but you are correct, I thought the decocker was a safety.

It is not a matter of one being more difficult than the other to operate, but a matter of one being more simple. My preference is for the XD, which what I own, because it lacks safety levers.

 

[DougDubya]

That's okay. I like Glocks, SIGs and CZ's, (and Berettas and 1911's and XD's and S&W 3rd gens...)

The P-01 and the Glock are both right there for no fuss "get started fighting."

 

[ROCK6]

I have both and I’ve carried both as CCW’s. I like the stock grips on the P-01, but for carrying concealed I like smoother grips; not an issue if you’re at the range. I’ve found my P-01 a tad more accurate than my G19, but that could also just be me. With cocobolo grips, that P-01 looks beautiful!

ROCK6

 

[EOD Guy in VA]

CZ P-01 is superb

 

[donato]

Have never shot the G19, in fact, no Glock ever ; however, I own and have about 1300 rounds through my P-01. If you've never owned, held or fired a CZ P-01, it's hard for me to describe to you just what a superb gun it is. I've shot a number of other auto-handguns including Kel-Tec (the LCP sized one), Sig P239 9mm, XDm .40, Sigma 9mm, Para Ord P13 9mm, and a couple of 1911s including (recently) the Taurus PT1911. While I've found good aspects in all, the CZ P-01 is by far (repeat) my choice.

The G19 looks like a fine handgun and I'm absolutely not knocking it. One day soon I must try it out also.

Out of the box, the P-01 trigger is a bit gritty as some describe. Right out of the box you've got to clean it thoroughly and use a good lube. With range time and some dry firing, the trigger smooths out nicely. Also, you have to get used to the trigger pull; it is different than a Sig for example. In single action, there is a bit of take-up to be had, then there is some creep involved in getting to the release point; however, once you get the trigger smoothed out, it shoots very easily/nicely.

The P-01 is an accurate shooter and I've experienced no hiccups (nada) in 1300 rounds. Really fun to shoot. Carries nicely too.

 

[Dr_2_B]

It's funny to look at those two pistols side by side. Which one looks to you like it typifies former eastern block, archaic form?

 

[Gordon]

I think, and most Blackwater and other operators agree , that the Glock 19 is hands down the most 'reliable' format known.
I never liked the G19, but constantly carry a G26 and have an issued G17 in my Duty Locker when I reserve. I have had a g17 since 1988 and have NEVER had a gun caused MALF.
All that said I have a Po1 next to my bed with a TRL1 led light on it. It has been GTG in the 2500 rounds I've put thru it, including some gnarly 147 grain Spanish 'training ammo' that only the p01 and my 92FS eats. I keep it loaded with Ranger Bonded 127 grain +p and it is the second most accurate service pistol I own with this ammo, a SIG 210-5 being the MOST accurate.
So there you have it; the G-19 is SUPPOSED to be the most reliable, but the P01 is right up there , and safer chamber loaded IMHO than the Glock because of the DA first shot and the decocker. I would NOT feel unarmed with either, for sure!

 

[armoredman]

I wish I could say the same, but I have had three differant Glocks fail in my hand. Every firearm is a man made tool, and will fail eventually, that is a truth. I trust CZ more than the G-17/19 I am required to use at work. that's just me, as the saying goes, YMMV.

 

[bangkok]

Thanks everyone for your opinions. I can't wait to pick up my P-01, there is finally lots 9mm ammo around here, so I'm good to go!

 

[JDGray]

If you don't mind telling, just how good a deal did you find on that P01?

I'm sure you'll enjoy it

 

[bangkok]

If you don't mind telling, just how good a deal did you find on that P01?

I'm sure you'll enjoy it

Well, I am in California and they list for almost $600 new, plus we are now enjoying almost 10% sales tax! The one I found was from a collector, only six month old, shot one magazine thru it and the other mag was still virgin. He took $450 for it.

 

[Ichiro]

For range use, I'd rather have the CZ. I found it to be very comfortable.

 

[bangkok]

This is my handsdown favorite range toy!

Where did you get the grips? They look nice!

 

[jpwilly]

Me likes the P-01 better too...great handgun. My ONLY wonder 9!

 

[MJZZZ]

P-01 no doubt

Of the two, I picked the P-01. It just feels so good in your hand compared to the Glock. The CZ PCR is my real choice, but you didn't ask that question. Mike

 

[md7]

bangkok,

both should be well made and reliable pistols. you'll be fine and well served with either. my preference is for the Glock though. simple, reliable, parts and accessories easy to come by, and I shoot it better than the CZ. YMMV.

I see that you have selected the CZ. I should have read the thread in its entirety. congrats. it is a fine pistol (as i have already stated.)

 

[1911 Operator]

i have 2 cz's and one glock.

my cz75 has tens of thousands of rounds through it with no malfunctions whatsoever.

my glock 19 had one stovepipe in about 2,000 rounds.

they're both great guns, but you can't beat the ergonomics of cz!

it just comes down to personal pref. if it's just for target shooting, as you said, i'd personally pick cz. mine are both more accurate than my glock.

 

[Girodin]

If the Cz is a great buy I would get it. Glocks are very common and you will likely be able to find a good buy on a G19 later if you still want one.

If it is a range gun I would not worry about extra weight. For a range gun I often like a bigger/heavier pistol, they are easier to shoot well, although a G19 is pretty easy to shoot as well.

 

[schmeky]

I had a G19 years ago and it just didn't fit my hand well. Sold it. Once I got my grubby paws around a CZ and felt how incredibly comfortable they were, I haven't looked back. I shoot a CZ much better (than my first generation G17 I still have).

I can't detect any difference in reliablity between a Glock or a CZ.